07:55:36 PM Jun 27th 2011
*** You got it completely wrong. Varys told Eddard Stark that "he served the realm" and despised the aristocracy for being little more than spoiled fools with too much power and too little consideration for the commoners who suffered the most during their vying for power. He, essentially gave the good guy a reverse Hannibal Lecture letting him know that his lofty ideals of justice and nobility were a pleasure only the rich could care about while the commoners were worried more about famine and soldiers maiming and raping them than who ever sat on the throne. Ed left the conversation knowing that the ONLY reason why Varys tried to keep him and King Robert alive was that he saw them as less harmful than the rest. Varys is a brilliant deconstruction of the grand vizier and is more of a genre savvy white knight in a Crapsack World than anything else.Because they are natter.
- Regardless of his claims, it's been implied several times that Varys might very well be scheming to bring the Targaryens back into power. Even if this isn't evil, it's still fulfills the "plotting against the throne" part of the trope.
- Not to mention Varys is seen scheming with Illyrio to help turn the nobility against each other so that Dany can swoop in and conquer them all. This would make him precisely one of those 'players who hurts the commoners for his own gain' that he rails against when speaking to Ned.
06:16:18 PM Feb 6th 2011
10:18:52 AM Jan 27th 2011
I dont' understand the strikethrough in the trope description. Why is it there? Should I just cut the part that's struck through?
06:41:25 PM Oct 16th 2010
Anyone played Adam Cadre's Varicella, and have an opinion on whether she'd fit here? She's not a chancellor per se, but the goal of the game is to become the regent for the (5 year old) king, and some of the acts she commits to get the job are quite evil.
09:22:59 PM Oct 16th 2010
Is there a trope for scheming regents and would-be regents? Lord knows there's enough of them in real life, let alone fiction. And it's rather different from the situation of a chancellor.
07:35:00 PM Dec 8th 2010
11:06:18 AM Jun 23rd 2010
I sugest changing the name to The Vizir or a derivative thereof. Because thats what the trope is really called. You say he plays The Vizir character in this show, everybody knows what you are talking about. Say Evil Chancellor and people wonder if you talking german politics. Trope namer is 1001 nights.
12:38:22 PM Aug 28th 2010
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edited by Vasha
True, but the Vizirs in the actual 1001 nights are usually not evil. This perception is due to an oversimplification which has a lot to do with European prejudice and limited perception of Islamic societies.
09:13:24 AM Feb 8th 2011
I went and ran this down because the Evil Vizir is usually Jafar. Turns out that the Good Vizir Giafar in Arabian Nights and the Evil Vizir Jafar in Aladdin are the same guy, Ja'far ibn Yahya, the Grand Vizir to Abbasid Caliph Haroun al Raschid. Why that is, how he changed, the deponent knoweth not.
10:24:36 PM Feb 8th 2011
Massive Character Derailment, that's for sure.
04:15:47 AM May 30th 2010
08:51:17 PM Oct 10th 2014
It said no real life examples. However, if real life examples were allowed, than I would have to say the most evil chancellor was Adolf Hitler (chancellor of Germany). Bismarck created Germany, and he opposed overseas imperialism (this is why Germany had so few colonies in Africa; those were founded by private corporations).