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zorbik
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06:48:16 AM Jul 6th 2012
The way I understand this trope, discussion of the DRM on works shouldn't link here. Am I wrong?
takashi0
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05:20:19 PM Nov 13th 2010
Is there a particular reason why the "I" in "D Igital" is capatalized and the "D" is separated from the rest of the word? Am I not getting something?
EponymousKid
09:25:30 PM Nov 17th 2010
I don't have this exact problem, but I see this sort of thing occasionally in other tropes. No idea what causes it, but it's really not that big a problem.
TBeholder
02:11:58 PM Nov 21st 2010
(sigh) WIkIwoRds. One of annoying engine features. That is, wiki engine will accept whatever you give it as long as the first letter is capitalized and won't correct it unless {{wikiword}}s are in curly brackets.
Chimaera
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07:52:12 AM Nov 11th 2010
Everyone: This trope is about depictions of digital piracy IN-UNIVERSE. Anything else, including creators complaining about losing money because of piracy, is NOT an example.
EponymousKid
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06:24:36 PM Oct 11th 2010
I feel like this sort of went away from "depictions of digital piracy in fiction as a vile, hateful action" to "actual real people whose livelihoods depend on their product actually being sold are concerned about digital piracy and lol fuck them".

Right? Anyone else getting this vibe?
Caswin
08:09:27 PM Oct 11th 2010
I think that happened pretty quickly, yeah.
88.211.10.142
04:51:19 AM Oct 13th 2010
I'm not sure livelihood is the appropriate term for something that earns you enough to buy a mansion on a private island.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/livelihood
EponymousKid
12:29:05 PM Oct 13th 2010
And explain how even one "example" listed on this page is a guy who doesn't need the money railing about digital piracy from his private island, and I'll shut up. The comic and manga markets really do suffer, a lot, from digital piracy, for example.
TBeholder
11:27:41 AM Oct 14th 2010
And the ones wailing loudest for some reason are not the artists who really make manga or comics, but either a business-club for some mysterious reason dubbed "MAFIAA", oligopolist labels or interchangeable rappers mass-produced by them. Strange, isn't? =)

Of course, "guys who doesn't need the money railing from their private islands" by now rail not about "digital piracy", that was decades ago. Now they rail about how people has no right to press any remote control buttons while viewing their product art (though grudgingly allowing their much-respected fans a walk into bathroom — so far). Or that everyone buying CD-R should pay them and it's still everyone else robs them blind.
CharredKnight
06:04:16 PM Apr 9th 2011
I have seen quite a few artists rail against digital piracy. The whole thing with Black Butler is an example. Also while a lot of creators do make these in jest there trying to remind you that they want you to buy their product.
sstabeler
09:27:25 AM Sep 17th 2011
T Beholder, MAFIAA is the nickname pirates give to the MPAA, I believe. ( and the reason you don't hear about the small artists getting hammered by piracy is generally due to very few people listening, and them not knowing how to get their voices heard.)
Turtler
09:39:42 PM Oct 6th 2013
I would agree; this needs a massive cleanup. The whitewashing of piracy is despicable.

@88.211.10.142: Perhaps this comes as a surprise to you, but "livelihoods" are not obligatorily capped at some perverted, arbitrary roof of prosperity before they no longer qualify as livelihoods. In fact, the entire ability to "get what you need to live on and *then* some" is the entire optimal goal of a livelihoods.

Like or dislike the person in question, but they just made it to the top using (hopefully) the same general tools everyone up to the living-on-a-shoestring people do. Piracy undermines that entire issue.

@T Beholder The "MAFIAA" label says plenty about you. The fact that you are apparently a psychic ("the ones wailing loudest for some reason are NOT the artists..." Really? And how would you know? Straw poll? Extensive interviews)is bad enough, but the latter parts of it are rubbish.

Newsflash: Artists, "Oligopolist labels", "Interchangeable Rappers", and even the oh-so-malignly-named "MAFIAA" have a right to defend their property and interests within the bounds of the law. Period. Whining to try and overturn that by complaining about who they are is irrelevant before the law and before morality, and the resort of someone who knows they have nothing to stand on.

You again repeat your attempted psychic efforts by getting inside the mind of "private island owners who rail", which is hilarious because A: yes, they still do complain about digital piracy, and B: invasive attempts of that level like the XB One have been a strict minority and have *always8 paid the price for it.

So please, don't bother slurring.
89.27.201.140
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01:11:41 PM Sep 1st 2010
edited by 89.27.201.140
The protection of some games even force players who own an original version to crime, as sometimes the only way to get the game to work or to work well, is to get rid off the protection, which is considered crime.
Turtler
08:02:40 PM Oct 7th 2013
And which is neigh-unprosecutable for many, many different reasons. Not the least of which being that if you can produce actual proof of legitimate purchase a jury, judge, and even more than a few plaintiffs will happily understand.

A situation like this (mainly disc degradation) has affected me personally, so I know. That in no way means that doing it just for the sake of doing it is legitimate.
Lerianis
03:11:59 AM Oct 28th 2014
Also, remember that 'piracy' could also be termed 'sharing'. Akin to that thing that we are told to do with threats of punishment if we do not by our parents when we are children. If these companies would just realize that their stuff is severely overpriced and they should be dropping prices quicker than they are? Things would get much better for these companies. Sure, they would be making less per purchase but they would sell so many MORE products that their losses due to the lower price would be abrogated.
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