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HarleyQuinnhyenaholic
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07:36:19 PM Aug 4th 2013
All the subversions should probably be removed - if the black guy doesn't die first (or something like that) then the black guy doesn't die first.
SeptimusHeap
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02:29:24 AM May 28th 2012
Do these tropes fit the definition?
  • It's traditionally held that the first person to die during The American Revolution was a man of African descent named Crispus Attucks, killed in the Boston Massacre.
  • The first SWAT officer to be killed in the line of Duty was a Black man.
  • The First man killed in John Browns raid on Harpers ferry was Black man who worked at the Armory.
FastEddie
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02:39:29 AM May 28th 2012
These are all real life. Doesn't really pertain. Might make interesting Trivia entries, though.
SophieWilder
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04:58:01 AM May 26th 2012
I'd like to whinge pitifully about the film I saw last night - Peaceful Warrior (yeah, they made a film of a New Age book). Anyway, it's about a team of gymnasts training for the Olympics. One of the gymnasts is black, and he has to drop out early on due to injury. The white main character, of course, overcomes a far worse injury to make the games. Nice positive message there, guys. So, nobody dies, but the trope is sort-of there.
MagBas
05:12:57 AM May 26th 2012
Well, according to The Other Wiki, the New Age book in question is part autobiographical. If it did not really happen, or if the gymnast in question received a Race Lift...
Macrodex
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08:02:12 PM Apr 16th 2012
I don't see how this trope even carries into Horror movies. Within the big four — Ft13th, Halloween, No ES, TCM — any black character isn't the first to die. Even movies outside of the those — Night of the Demons, Return of the Living Dead, any movie in the of the Dead series [Night, Dawn, Day, etc.] — any black characters aren't the first to go. Sure, they might die, but, so do a lot of white males. I don't really care for the racial "undertones" — that can be found in nearly anything — but, there is no large citation as to where this trope comes from when it deals with Horror.
nlpnt
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05:46:25 AM Mar 29th 2012
So it looks like Jezebel linked to this page on the 27th. How do the page hits look?

http://jezebel.com/5896688/i-see-white-people-hunger-games-and-a-brief-history-of-cultural-whitewashing
MangaManiac
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11:42:27 PM Dec 14th 2011
I question whether The Order of the Stick is an example. Yes, Roy dies, but he still remains in the comic's focus as a ghost and then later is revived after a few hijinks.
BazBake
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10:57:38 PM Aug 1st 2011
After perusing several of the "Black Guys Die First" it's interesting how often the black guy dies saving a white character (often a female). So, how about a companion for Magical Negro called "Sacrificial Negro?" Specifically a black character who dies saving another character when no other character even considered the alternative.

Virus is the biggest offender I can think of, namely because the character survives on his own through a series of MacGyver-esque traps, even successfully building an escape ejector seat out of a propane tank and scrap metal. He takes down the monster with a rocket launcher in a Crowning Moment of Awesome, gets buried alive by collapsing debris, and instructs his hapless white co-star to use his escape route and save the day.
78.15.241.93
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05:45:15 PM Mar 17th 2011
"Conosco questa storia, il povero negro crepa per primo" ^_^ Ingmar
66.191.152.40
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09:47:52 AM Dec 6th 2010
76.101.153.205
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07:31:08 PM Aug 28th 2010
The problem is this trope is actually a myth. I wrote a paper on this while at film school and even if you look at the list of films listed there are very few where the black guy dies first. Even in movies before the 90s it rarely happened. The actual racism is that very few black actors got cast in horror films. I believe the article needs to be corrected.
66.191.152.40
09:37:51 AM Dec 6th 2010
edited by 66.191.152.40
I wish I could find an article I read spacificaly pertaining to the Friday the 13th series. While no black characters have made it to the end of any of those movies, none died first. But also...almost every character dies in every friday the 13th movie.

As for saying that black actors don't get cast in horror movies. You are incorrect. I can think of several right off the top of my head... Ken Foree: Dawn of the Dead (lives), From Beyond, Halloween,Texas chainsaw massacre 3,Devil's Rejects

Tony Todd: Candyman 1-3, Night of the Living Dead, Final Destination, the Crow,

Duane Jones: Nighit of the living dead 1968.

There is a whole website dedicated to black actors in horror films. http://www.blackhorrormovies.com/actorsb.htm
107.4.78.234
02:19:14 AM Apr 26th 2011
I never said black actors never get cast I said there were very few casts in horror films. If you look at Friday the 13th, Nightmare and Halloween there are only a handfull of black actors in the whole series. Now as we enter the 90s and the 2000's we see that black actors are more commonly cast but we also see that is when this "trope" becomes self aware anyway.

Your video only helps prove my point. Yes the black actors die in the film but very few in that video die first.

84788484
04:23:18 PM Sep 24th 2013
edited by 75.17.250.246
In usage on the wiki you'll notice it generally just means "Black Dude Dies". Period.
Sunaya
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06:06:19 PM Jun 24th 2010
There are so many subversions and inversions listed here that I'm wondering if there should be a new topic for them. "Black Dude Dies Last"?
76.101.153.205
07:30:44 PM Aug 28th 2010
The problem is this trope is actually a myth. I wrote a paper on this while at film school and even if you look at the list of films listed there are very few where the black guy dies first. Even in movies before the 90s it rarely happened. The actual racism is that very few black actors got cast in horror films. I believe the article needs to be corrected.
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