I dont think it makes sense to have an anime section. The first work mentioned basically says that the only reason its there is because the character looks (stereotypically to Western eyes) Asian. The one after is Sailoe Moon, which then brings up why we don't have a bunch of other Japanese anime characters,since characters like Usagi are a dime a dozen in anime. So, I'm up to removing them if nobody else has an issue.
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The former page image was pulled with no proper discussion either here or on Image Pickin, with an edit summary of "maybe it's the lack of context but a picture of what looks like an irl asian person with a caption like "the sound you hear is the air rushing between her ears" sounds pretty racist. with no context it doesn't seem relevant enough an image or caption either."
The attractive, obviously asian girl, the stereotypical bubblegum, the crossed eyes and the ditzy pose are easily enough to illustrate the trope and avoid JAFAAC, and I cannot see anything racist about the image.
Readding the image.
Russell... likes to hurt people... for PEACE.
I don't believe Lane from Gilmore Girls fits this trope, she definitely has depth, is not ditzy, just overprotected, and is a very well developed character.
Okay, it seems to me that this page is like...80% subversions of the "trope". Most characters listed have some degree of depth... Plus it's a pretty damn short list overall.
Is there any actual reason for this to have a trope page?
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Hmm... I guess the image isn't the only problem.
I think the biggest problem is that in Anime and Manga, it's assumed that, unless otherwise stated, the characters are all Asian. So of course they'd just be an airhead without any other qualifiers.
It is what it is.
What, by the way, is the source of the page image? Are we insulting some real person who's out in the world somewhere? Because I wouldn't be comfortable with that.
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... no, it's just a very realistic drawing.
In seriousness, it looks like Jamie Chung, who's played a few of these roles. I could be wrong since I can't tell Asians apart (... or anyone else, really), but the fact the image is titled "Jamie" leads me to believe I'm correct.
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Ah, if it's an actress who plays a lot of roles like this that might be a different situation.
It's a photo. I was being sarcastic. I do sometimes.
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LOL opps! :)
I still think the image sucks, and makes me feel sad that this is a person. It doesn't look like a screenshot or anything; just a girl at a party, which makes the image seem mean-spirited. :( I'm taking it to IP though cuz it's still bothering me.
It is what it is.
How is this trope a Double Standard? An Asian ditz is simply that. There are real ones out there, it's not implying all Asian women are ditzy. It's simply a subversion of the Asian and Nerdy stereotype.
Are there no Anime or Manga examples? Or is this a Western only trope of sorts?
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An Asian Airhead in an Anime is simple a female ditz. My biggest problem with this trope is that if you were to make the Asian girl smart you'd hear cries of the Asian and Nerdy trope. (like Evalin Kwan from Neds Declassified).
Edited by RhymeBeat The Crystal Caverns A bird's gotta sing.
Yeah, the way the trope reads now, if you are female and Asian, then you are not allowed to have a personality (outside of being a Yamato Nadeshiko or something), otherwise you will be a walking stereotype. This could use a slight rewrite, methinks.
What if the anime or manga takes place in a western area, where most of the characters are not Asian? Could this trope apply?
If the author is aware of this generally Western trope and maybe has a thing for self-referential humor, then yes. In practice, I wouldn't expect it.
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, opened by Gaston Rabbit on Mar 20th 2023 at 6:34:27 PM.