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OgreProdigy
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02:36:58 AM Mar 16th 2013
So, is Umegat's lover actually dead? Umegat implies it very strongly when he's describing his torture, but lets Cazaril assume it rather than specifically state it, and the old groom who accompanies him everyone has been mutilated in exactly the same way, and is clearly the person Umegat is closest to.

"Don't we make a fine pair..."
jenfullmoon
09:24:54 AM Apr 21st 2013
I'm guessing that the author means to imply that the lover is the groom, by the end.
Greenygal
11:29:10 AM Apr 21st 2013
Umegat doesn't imply anything, he says it straight out: "He died a martyr, hanged." On the other hand, this is a report he got secondhand, so I suppose he could be speaking From a Certain Point of View—this is what he was told at the time, and later he found it wasn't entirely true. I don't think the book particularly suggests this, though. Aside from there not being an obvious reason to deceive Cazaril about it, Cazaril never registers the groom as Roknari—unlike Umegat, where it's the first thing he notices—and Umegat's known the groom twenty years, while Cazaril estimates Umegat to have been serving the Bastard for forty.
Kazrak
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03:21:12 PM Feb 28th 2011
The Dowager Provincara: what to classify her as? I listed her as Meddling Parents shading toward Evil Matriarch, but she's clearly not evil...she's just extremely strong-willed and tries to take charge of every situation she's involved in. Other option was My Beloved Smother, but I didn't get that vibe off her...perhaps because her son had run away to Taryoon over a decade before the first book.
callsignecho
06:34:26 PM Mar 21st 2011
I would say Grande Dame.
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