History Literature / Chalion

21st Aug '16 1:42:13 PM ACW
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** Dondo by Jironal in ''The Curse of Chalion'' who wastes no time currying favor with Royse Teidez in order to corrupt him and make him dependent on his brother [[EvilChancellor Martou]].

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** Dondo by dy Jironal in ''The Curse of Chalion'' who wastes no time currying favor with Royse Teidez in order to corrupt him and make him dependent on his brother [[EvilChancellor Martou]].
16th Aug '16 10:11:18 AM Rday
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* BecauseYouWereNiceToMe: Much of the reason Penric is able to get so much immediate aid from Desdemona is that he treats "her" like a person, with thoughts and feelings of her own, not merely a useful, if dangerous, tool.

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* BecauseYouWereNiceToMe: Much of the reason Penric is able to get so much immediate aid assistance from Desdemona is that he treats "her" like a person, with thoughts and feelings of her own, not merely a useful, if dangerous, if useful, tool.



** He is the first of Desdemona's many riders to even have the courtesy to give her a name.

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** He is the first of Desdemona's many riders to even have the courtesy to give her a name.
11th Aug '16 3:21:54 AM H.TorranceGriffin
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* RebelliousPrincess: Ista is a variant, in that she gets rebellious ''after'' being queen instead of ''before''.

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* RebelliousPrincess: Ista is switches this up a variant, bit by abandoning upper-class female expectations nearly a generation after her royal husband dies (and a couple of years after her daughter takes the throne). Rusticate in that she gets rebellious ''after'' being queen instead of ''before''.a peaceful manor? No, too many bad memories. Go to the capital and either play politics or bond with the grandkids? Even worse memories, pass. [[spoiler: Declare a vocation for the least reputable deity in the pantheon and ride into a war zone to hunt demons?]] ''Coolness''!
11th Aug '16 1:21:13 AM PaulA
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* TheLostWood: The Wounded Wood, in the Weald. Everyone who sleeps in their bounds has mad, vivid nightmares that send them racing away in terror. [[spoiler:It's the cursed site of a horrible massacre of thousands of spirit warriors who still haunt the place, centuries later]].

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* TheLostWood: TheLostWoods: The Wounded Wood, in the Weald. Everyone who sleeps in their bounds has mad, vivid nightmares that send them racing away in terror. [[spoiler:It's the cursed site of a horrible massacre of thousands of spirit warriors who still haunt the place, centuries later]].
11th Aug '16 1:20:11 AM PaulA
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* [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor Be Careful What You Pray For]]: a recurring theme.

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* [[BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor Be Careful What You Pray For]]: a BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor: A recurring theme.theme in the context of praying to the gods for an outcome.



* [[FirstGirlWins First Guy Wins]]/[[LastGirlWins Last Guy Wins]]: Zigzagged in ''Paladin of Souls''. Bujold implies that Ista is too old and heartbroken for romance. Then sets up several potential love interests and whips the reader back and forth between them like a terrier with a rat. Then after getting the reader's hopes up she implies that Ista was deluding herself all along. Then she subverts that, too.



* [[MayDecemberRomance May–September Romance]]: Betriz and Cazaril. But the last few years have [[OlderThanTheyLook not been kind]] to Caz. People are generally shocked to learn that he's only 35.



* [[RebelliousPrincess Rebellious Queen Mother]]: Ista

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* [[RebelliousPrincess Rebellious Queen Mother]]: IstaRebelliousPrincess: Ista is a variant, in that she gets rebellious ''after'' being queen instead of ''before''.
10th Aug '16 9:32:59 PM Nerrin
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* TheLostWood: The Wounded Wood, in the Weald. Everyone who sleeps in their bounds has mad, vivid nightmares that send them racing away in terror. [[spoiler:It's the cursed site of a horrible massacre of thousands of spirit warriors who still haunt the place, centuries later]].



* MistakenForGay: Apparently a minor hazard of becoming a priest of the Bastard.

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* MistakenForGay: Apparently a minor hazard of becoming a priest of the Bastard. Which becomes a major hazard when dealing with the Roknari, as both homosexuality and worship of the Bastard are forbidden among them and the punishments for both ''start'' with cutting off your thumbs.


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* RageAgainstTheHeavens: The driving force behind [[spoiler:Earl Horseriver]]'s big plan in ''The Hallowed Hunt''. He's unspeakably pissed off at the gods turning their backs to the Wealdings long ago.


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* ReasonableAuthorityFigure: As nearly every major character is a noble or high-ranking priest, most of the good guys of each book count as this in some capacity, often to each other. Cazaril was set to be one for Iselle as her tutor and secretary, and [[spoiler:became one of the highest ones in Chalion as her chancellor, responding to Ista's pilgrimage plans with a full purse, the dy Gura brothers, and a note wishing her well]]. Most of the villains are defined by something having made them quite unreasonable, if only on a particular matter - [[spoiler:Earl Horseriver]] was as decent a lord you could ask for, when you weren't in the way of his plans.


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** The Hallowed King was meant to be one, a paragon of the old Wealdings. In the centuries since the Darthacans had broken the Old Weald, the Hallowed Kingship became a mere political office. [[spoiler:Mostly because Horseriver had at least half the magical power of the kingship with him down through the centuries, and none of the kings since then had any idea there was anything to it nor how to use it]].


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* SenselessSacrifice: The Old Wealdings used to practice HumanSacrifice as a way to speed their prayers to the gods. These sacrifices were willing, moved by desperation to make sure the gods heard their kinfolk's prayers when the gods took up the sacrifice's soul upon death. As the Darthacans invaded the Weald centuries ago, the Weald quickly ran out of willing sacrifices and started killing criminals and prisoners of war instead. [[ATragedyOfImpulsiveness And never stopped to think what kind of prayers these unwilling sacrifices must be taking up to the gods with them]]. No wonder the Five turned their back on the Old Weald.
7th Aug '16 12:46:28 PM Nerrin
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* EarnYourHappyEnding: A lot of characters. Cazaril is especially notable because [[spoiler: the solution for the curse, requiring a man "willing to lay down his life three times for the House of Chalion," means he literally had to ''practice dying'' through multiple [[NearDeathExperience Near Death Experiences]] so his soul would be open enough for the gods to recover the power of the curse from the world]].
7th Aug '16 12:22:40 PM Nerrin
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* OurSoulsAreDifferent: Everything about magic is based on something to do with the soul. Living beings are one of the only points where the spirit and material realms cross over at all, and so are the only vessel through which spiritual forces (AKA, magic) can manifest in the material world. Thus divine miracles must come through a willing soul; sorcery is the product of demon possession; and the Wealding shamans bonded animal souls to human to grant strange powers from the mix.
** As for the general trope details: If you lose yours, you die. They can be damaged and destroyed, but they can also be borrowed from without ''too much'' harm. Mind, body, and soul are all distinct but interconnected, such that memory and even wounds can go with them. Ghosts are damaged souls or those of people who willingly turned from the gods - not just disbelievers, but from active hatred. More than one soul can inhabit a body, but [[YourSoulIsMine bad things]] tend to happen.
7th Aug '16 11:59:11 AM Nerrin
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* ContinuityDrift: By way of UniquenessDecay, as magic and miracles steadily become more common over the series:
** In ''Curse'' there are only a small handful of saints who experience limited but profound interventions from their gods, and there are only a few overtly magical events in the book.
** In ''Paladin'', sorcerers are a known quantity and either rogues or Temple-trained agents of the Bastard; and while saints are still fairly rare they are treated more like appointed positions in the Temple endorsed by divine acclamation, kind of like lesser popes.
** ''Hunt'' goes right out with Temple sorcerers being uncommon but well-known, and saints of the Five being common enough the Temple makes distinctions between major saints and petty saints - they're talked about as a fact of the church hierarchy, with rather less of the awe-inspiring tone about them seen in ''Curse''.
7th Aug '16 5:50:28 AM morenohijazo
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** ''Curse of Chalion'': A physician enthusiastically tells a horrified Cazaril that his tumor could have grown teeth or hair. He attributes it to [[BodyHorror a demon attempting to grow a body and escape into the material world]].

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** ''Curse of Chalion'': A physician enthusiastically tells a horrified Cazaril that his tumor could have grown teeth or hair.hair, ie a teratoma. He attributes it to [[BodyHorror a demon attempting to grow a body and escape into the material world]].
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