History Literature / Chalion

11th Sep '17 5:16:00 PM Bissek
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* MultipleChoicePast: There's a few different versions of the Bastard's origin floating around, it's not clear whether the Mother had sex with a demon or if he is more of a magical construct they created together.

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* MultipleChoicePast: There's a few different versions of the Bastard's origin floating around, it's not clear whether the Mother had sex with a demon (or how voluntary said act was) or if he is more of a magical construct they created together.
10th Aug '17 5:35:35 PM Kazrak
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Three loosely linked novels, and four self-published novellas, by Creator/LoisMcMasterBujold set in a reasonably historically accurate counterpart to medieval Europe, with a pantheon of five gods (the Father, Mother, Daughter, Son and Bastard) -- fairly activist gods, but ones who are incapable of acting directly on the physical world, requiring them to work through willing humans. In publication order:

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Three loosely linked novels, and four five self-published novellas, by Creator/LoisMcMasterBujold set in a reasonably historically accurate counterpart to medieval Europe, with a pantheon of five gods (the Father, Mother, Daughter, Son and Bastard) -- fairly activist gods, but ones who are incapable of acting directly on the physical world, requiring them to work through willing humans. In publication order:
10th Aug '17 5:35:13 PM Kazrak
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* ''Penric's Fox'' (novella, interquel set after ''Penric and the Shaman'')
14th Jun '17 10:03:31 PM Vandegraff1
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** ''The Curse of Chalion''
*** People commenting on how old Caz looks with his beard.

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** In ''The Curse of Chalion''
*** People commenting
Chalion'', several characters comment on how old Caz looks with his beard.beard.
** In ''Paladin of Souls'', when a Chalionese character mocks Jokonan Prince Sordso--nicknamed "Sordso the Sot"--for drinking, writing morose poetry, and in general being totally un-statesmanlike, they will almost always follow it up with a grudging admission that his poetry is actually quite good.



** In ''Paladin of Souls'', when a Chalionese character mocks Jokonan Prince Sordso--nicknamed "Sordso the Sot"--for drinking, writing morose poetry, and in general being totally un-statesman like, they will almost always follow it up with a grudging admission that his poetry is actually quite good.
14th Jun '17 10:02:16 PM Vandegraff1
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** In ''Paladin of Souls'', when a Chalionese character mocks Jokonan Prince Sordso--nicknamed "Sordso the Sot"--for drinking, writing morose poetry, and in general being totally un-statesman like, they will almost always follow it up with a grudging admission that his poetry is actually quite good.



** In ''Paladin of Souls'', when a Chalionese character mocks Jokonan Prince Sordso--nicknamed "Sordso the Sot"--for drinking, writing morose poetry, and in general being totally un-statesman like, they will almost always follow it up with a grudging admission that his poetry is actually quite good.
14th Jun '17 9:23:55 PM Vandegraff1
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** Also the Hallow King, who's imminent death drives the plot of ''The Hallowed Hunt'', as [[spoiler: Earl Horseriver takes advantage of the brief interregnum before Prince Biast takes the crown, to take back the full power of the Weald and finally achieve a permanent death and dissolution.]]

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** Also the Hallow King, who's whose imminent death drives the plot of ''The Hallowed Hunt'', as [[spoiler: Earl Horseriver takes advantage of the brief interregnum before Prince Biast takes the crown, to take back the full power of the Weald and finally achieve a permanent death and dissolution.]]
2nd Jun '17 4:09:12 PM callsignecho
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* TheFoil: ''Paladin of Souls'' juxtaposes the hero, Ista, with the BigBad, Joen--two highborn women in their forties, frustrated by the lot society has based on their gender and age. Ultimately, Ista finds a new relationship with her god, declares her independence from her keepers, and finds a noble purpose in life. Joen dives into sorcery and sin, enslaving her family to her will in a twisted attempt to fulfill not her own stolen destiny, but her father's.

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* TheFoil: {{Foil}}: ''Paladin of Souls'' juxtaposes the hero, Ista, with the BigBad, Joen--two highborn women in their forties, frustrated by the lot society has based on their gender and age. Ultimately, Ista finds a new relationship with her god, declares her independence from her keepers, and finds a noble purpose in life. Joen dives into sorcery and sin, enslaving her family to her will in a twisted attempt to fulfill not her own stolen destiny, but her father's.
2nd Jun '17 4:00:14 PM callsignecho
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* ForWantOfANail: In the original poem's sense. After Cazaril realizes the extent of the gods' manipulations, he wonders how many men they sent on the road to help Teidez as he was sent to help Iselle, and who never made it.

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* TheFoil: ''Paladin of Souls'' juxtaposes the hero, Ista, with the BigBad, Joen--two highborn women in their forties, frustrated by the lot society has based on their gender and age. Ultimately, Ista finds a new relationship with her god, declares her independence from her keepers, and finds a noble purpose in life. Joen dives into sorcery and sin, enslaving her family to her will in a twisted attempt to fulfill not her own stolen destiny, but her father's.
* ForWantOfANail: In the original poem's sense. After Cazaril realizes the extent of the gods' manipulations, he wonders how many men they sent on the road to help Teidez as he was sent to help Iselle, and who never made it. In ''Paladin'', the Bastard confirms to Ista that the Son of Autumn sent many, but all failed.
2nd Jun '17 3:46:13 PM callsignecho
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** In ''Paladin of Souls'', when a Chalionese character mocks Jokonan Prince Sordso--nicknamed "Sordso the Sot"--for drinking, writing morose poetry, and in general being totally un-statesman like, they will almost always follow it up with a grudging admission that his poetry is actually quite good.
31st May '17 9:08:25 AM shawnmstewart
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* CessationOfExistence: A possible fate if one's soul is sundered from the gods (either by choice or by other supernatural cause) and cannot be claimed by one in a reasonable time. This also happens immediately to any soul placed in the Bastard's Hell, an extremely rare event.
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