Film Casablanca Discussion

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09:23:56 AM Sep 2nd 2016
edited by Fukiyama
Ambiguously Gay should be moved to YMMV. One can interpret the way Renault is played in variety of ways. If that isn't YMMV, I don't know what is. I've always taken him to be just a smooth-talking Frenchman out to use his job to get women into bed in exchange for visas. The fact that he shows up one night with a woman and her oblivious husband and Rick makes a joke out of it shouldn't be used as some kind of proof.
10:33:17 AM Sep 2nd 2016
That should go under Alternative Character Interpretation.

Fact is, if it did apply it would be Ambiguously Bi, but it's probably not even that.
08:14:39 PM Sep 3rd 2016
Do I just go in and change it then? I don't want to step on anyone's toes. Alternative Character Interpretation does look like the appropriate trope.
12:04:09 PM Sep 6th 2016
I say go for it.
09:05:43 PM Sep 6th 2016
Alternative Character Interpretation is YMMV. Should that trope be moved there?
02:25:36 PM Feb 8th 2013
Removed this one. It's not very clear-cut with all that Conversation in the Main Page which seems to have a point, and Karma Houdini is meant for real villains, Heel–Face Turn sometimes disqualifies a character.

  • Karma Houdini: OK, Capt. Renault turns good at the end, but he's still spent much of the war collaborating with the Nazis, including murdering prisoners at their command, and he's corrupt to boot.
    • It can be argued that someone who openly moves against the Nazis like Louis does is making such a personal risk that he can't possibly be a Karma Houdini.
    • Is being corrupt in a Nazi regime a bad thing? He was arranging exit visas for people who legally shouldn't have been allowed to leave (good), although he was charging a lot for this service (bad). He's still causing quite a bit of trouble for his superiors, even if his motives are less than altruistic.
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