I think the very existence of the Satellites is also a major spoiler, so we should unmark spoilers for them too.
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The Seraphims in Egghead now have anime versions. It's time to their pictures to be updated?
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So, a troper added (again) The Worf Effect under Atlas, but that's under Sentomaru as well. It could count to both if both got worfed at the same time, but since it's about a strong character getting defeated (or similar) to establish a threat, technically only one applies... Which should it be?
Personally, if I were to vote (I'm pretty sure Lucci is already established as very strong by that point) I'm voting for Atlas. Her instant defeat shows that CP 0 is okay with attacking Vegapunk and instantly switches the mood, while Sentomaru is defeated more for story purpose than showing how Lucci is a threat
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I still think it'd fit Sentomaru better. As I said previously, nothing ever stated that Atlas was strong - she was just a big punchy giant child that did some slapstick to Luffy - while Sentomaru's strength was extremely well established years ago. More specifically, his Ultimate Defense, which Lucci shred through with absolutely no effort.
Honestly, I think it'd almost go for both for that regard: Atlas for story reasons, but Sentomaru for character reasons. His defense was basically his Big Thing and it got blown away just like that, and it just doesn't count because Lucci happened to punt a kid right before? That feels very unfair.
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For that it matters, I think it fits to neither of them because Lucci is already clear that he's a very powerful fighter and there's no need to establish his strength, being part of CP 0 already explains anything. Sentomaru is quickly defeated to make the Seraphims switch side to keep the tension, so his defeat is purely for story purpose. It doesn't change the mood of the narrative (it's in the middle of a fight) nor it makes Lucci appear stronger (he just fought with luffy in gear 5)
The issue with Worf Effect is that many think it's just "character gets defeated instantly", while it's actually "character gets defeated easily to introduce a new character's strength" (or a new powerup, like Blueno). Lucci's strength is already known
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I would like clarification. This warning in the top, "Spoilers in the Seraphim and Dr. Vegapunk folders are unmarked." Are we including all the Punks as part of "Dr. Vegapunk folders"?
If so, then there are about 40 spoiler tags that need removal.
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