Should we really remove the Dazzlings' Death by Adaptation? The stage show is not canon, obviously — the first two movies are very much Broad Strokes in the play, for one — but it is an official piece of Equestria Girls media, created with Hasbro's approval (as I had mentioned in the note) by an experienced Mexican production company. It is not a "bootleg", or fan effort, or some such.
I do not see why the entry can't be kept.
(Have I missed something?)
Hide / Show RepliesIt's always a bit iffy to add non-canon material to a characters page. The trope could certainly appear on a page dedicated to the play, of course, but a source material doesn't have to mention tropes happening in all of their adaptations.
On the other hand, the page mention already the Fiendship Is Magic comic, whose canonicity is also dubious, so I can see the argument for mentioning this tidbit here too.
Yeah, I was thinking of that, mixed with the fact other Equestria Girls (and Friendship is Magic, if I'm not wrong) character pages also mention things from non-canon-but-official sources (such as the fashion dolls and the books — which vacillate between Canon Discontinuity [Twilight's Sparkly Sleepover Surprise] and Loose Canon [everything else]), and what I've seen in other series' character pages.
I took a bit of issue with the "getting rid of it since it's not canon" part, as wouldn't it mean we should purge these cases too?
Or rewrite them or something?
Edited by Ultra64As I was saying, I can see both parts of the argument. And since I'm rather against removing content from the page, I'd lean more toward saying that tropes from official licensed works can stay, whatever their relative canonicity, as long as it's clear where the example is coming from.
So yeah, IMO the removal of the Death by Adaptation example was a bit hasty, and I won't mind seeing it back.
The Sirens are not Canon Immigrant to the show. Equestria Girls is not an adaptation, it was a spin-off, and a subset of fans have chosen to consider it non-canon for no real reason but that is not the case now more than ever. You can't have a Canon Immigrant when they were always canon.
That the show contradicts their comic origin is not a concern, because the comics are Loose Canon and always have been, and the show has contradicted them in numerous other places. This isn't a comics character getting into the main series, it's a spin-off character getting into the main series.
Edited by DrakeClawfang Hide / Show RepliesThat a Trope page contains examples that don't fit with the trope is hardly new, and is in no way a blank check to add more unfitting examples.
I agree with the spin-off vs. adaptation logic above; this doesn't fit as Canon Immigrant and should be reverted to its original Cameo entry. And I'd spoiler tag the whole thing too.
semi related but why was the bit about the dazzlings being on earth for centuries and possible being responsible for many horrors removed from rainbow rocks's nightmare fuel section
Because that was invalidated by the comics. Even considering their low canonicity, anyway, that was too speculative. More Fridge Horror that Nightmare Fuel.
the comics are not canon at all thoe they contradict canon all the time have never been treated as even semi canon
Still, it's more Fridge Horror than Nightmare Fuel.
The Nightmare Fuel page even says not to put fan theories (even with lots of evidence or whatever), and that Fridge Horror goes, well, in the Fridge Horror page.
Is there a trope for a villain whose kind of the best of the worse of the other villains, I think Wallflower would be this in the sense that she's easily the best of the worse compared to the other villains.