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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
May 9th 2021 at 2:06:44 AM •••

Removed from main page, as there is a cleanup effort on one of the pages linked here underway and I am not sure what to do with this entry:

  • The Jester: He is a trained jester and former slave who was purchased by the Baratheons and survived a shipwreck on his way to Storm's End. However, he's apparently lost all of his jester abilities due to mental trauma, but shows signs of being a Mad Oracle to replace them. Only Shireen tolerates his company. Melisandre states that Patchface is a very dangerous man and sees death around him in her visions.

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LuisDantas Since: Jan, 2001
Jul 26th 2017 at 5:57:40 AM •••

The current version of the article seems to have had a lot of input from the very vocal contingent of Stannis' fans.

The character, particularly in the books, is in truth quite rotten in goals and deeds. The TV series went out of its way to make him look more sympathetic and more moral.

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JulianLapostat Since: Feb, 2014
Jul 26th 2017 at 8:39:16 AM •••

Can you actually cite examples?

And Word of God himself said, "Stannis is a righteous man".

So I don't think anything of what you say is true.

otherfromanothermother Since: Nov, 2014
Nov 11th 2014 at 4:08:04 PM •••

The Cape and other tropes may not be completely accurate. As per https://cantuse.wordpress.com/2014/09/30/the-mannifesto/ wherein cantuse makes quite the compelling argument (with extensive text based proof) that Stannis is willing to compromise his morals in order to advance his campaign and thus achieve sovereignty. Whilst cantuse's analysis may not "prove" with absolute certainty that Stannis is a Machiavellian genius who is pulling everyone's strings using all sorts of questionable tactics, nor that everything predicted will actually occur, it seems to be in-line with G.R.R. Martin's painting a character as being one thing and then showing that said character is another.

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otherfromanothermother Since: Nov, 2014
Nov 11th 2014 at 4:16:11 PM •••

Woops! I see that his moral flexibility is later treated in this page and that the other trope entries are there for the perceived trope status of Stannis. Apologies!

Peteman Since: Jan, 2001
May 13th 2014 at 3:26:43 PM •••

How is Stannis a Badass Normal? Does he take on White Walkers or something?

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