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SpectralTime Since: Apr, 2009
Nov 22nd 2020 at 6:55:42 PM •••

...I mean, if anything, I would argue that without such a characterization change, Xander's character would be not merely controversial but despised by Western audiences, and that fleshing out and moderating his seemingly slavish and delusional devotion to his father was necessary for a culture that is not nearly as reverent and deferential to authority. Through this lens, it is not that "shoddy localization contributed to the character's divisiveness," but that localization failed to totally erase an initial characterization and plot almost completely at odds with Western values.

All of which is setting aside that it is not only a shallow "change bad" argument, but fails to properly present two sides of a debatable issue and therefore does not qualify for the Broken Base trope in the first place.

CalamityRaven26 Since: Dec, 2014
Jun 4th 2018 at 6:08:32 AM •••

Out of curiosity, shouldn't there be an entry for Fates' story on this page? I was gonna make an edit, but that itself is whole nother can of worms that I'm honestly not certain whether its a good idea.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. Since: Mar, 2012
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
Jul 13th 2015 at 11:57:57 AM •••

Regarding Soleil's supports...I know this is a YMMV page, but it feels like the entries regarding that particular controversy are trying to take a certain stance on the subject. I'm not entirely sure if those links are really enough to "debunk" those criticisms.

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Stormblessed Since: Jan, 2016
Jan 21st 2016 at 11:59:46 AM •••

I feel the same way. Broken Base implies that there's two opinions on the subject matter, and while another viewpoint is presented, it felt to me that it was overshadowed by complaining about the scene. Then again, I feel like anyone who pushes "rape culture" (Something the RAINN itself said was likely not real) usually has an agenda to push.

Besides, it got the crap debunked out of it when the controversy started up.

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Monsund Since: Jan, 2001
Aug 7th 2015 at 6:31:17 AM •••

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  • To add fuel to the fire, some overzealous Hinoka fans have begun a "fandom war" between both characters. As a result, part of the aforementioned Camilla bashing can be traced back to some Hinoka "supporters" attempting to prop Hinoka as "the best eldest princess" by exaggerating Camilla's already present flaws, less because of possible Ship-to-Ship Combat and more because they can't fathom the idea of people liking both characters, or just liking one without bashing the other.
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It was asked on Ask the Tropers, and it was said this needs to be proven as widespread. As it is now, the majority of the fandom is instead talking about the games plot.

Monsund Since: Jan, 2001
Jul 13th 2015 at 3:03:30 PM •••

Shouldn't we just make a BrokenBase.Fire Emblem page for the series as a whole?

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