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As it stands now, this trope is being recreated [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/discussion.php?id=01znah6kwkgmmjlwnys0lr8u here]] as Fat Comic Relief, because people were misusing the trope to mean \
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As it stands now, this trope is being recreated [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/discussion.php?id=01znah6kwkgmmjlwnys0lr8u here]] as Fat Comic Relief, because people were misusing the trope to mean \\\"any character who is fat\\\" and providing {{Zero Context Example}}s.
The discussion on that YKTTW made two things clear that make PJ not an example:
1. For the ButtMonkey variety, their status must be PlayedForLaughs. PJ is played for sympathy, ergo, not an example.
2. The character\\\'s fatness must be in some way related to his status as a ButtMonkey or PluckyComicRelief character. PJ\\\'s ButtMonkey status is almost entirely due to being an abused child, \\\"under the thumb\\\" of a guy who\\\'s just as fat as he is. So he\\\'s not an example for this reason either.
UPDATE: FatComicRelief has been launched, The Fat Guy was put on the cutlist, and FatComicRelief\\\'s new description has folded in the objections to PJ being an example, as he was actually a pretty good indication of the vagueness of the description.
The discussion on that YKTTW made two things clear that make PJ not an example:
1. For the ButtMonkey variety, their status must be PlayedForLaughs. PJ is played for sympathy, ergo, not an example.
2. The character\\\'s fatness must be in some way related to his status as a ButtMonkey or PluckyComicRelief character. PJ\\\'s ButtMonkey status is almost entirely due to being an abused child, \\\"under the thumb\\\" of a guy who\\\'s just as fat as he is. So he\\\'s not an example for this reason either.
UPDATE: FatComicRelief has been launched, The Fat Guy was put on the cutlist, and FatComicRelief\\\'s new description has folded in the objections to PJ being an example, as he was actually a pretty good indication of the vagueness of the description.
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Why I removed The Fat Guy:
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As it stands now, this trope is being recreated [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/discussion.php?id=01znah6kwkgmmjlwnys0lr8u here]] as Fat Comic Relief, because people were misusing the trope to mean \
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As it stands now, this trope is being recreated [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/discussion.php?id=01znah6kwkgmmjlwnys0lr8u here]] as Fat Comic Relief, because people were misusing the trope to mean \\\"any character who is fat\\\" and providing {{Zero Context Example}}s.
The discussion on that YKTTW made two things clear that make PJ not an example:
1. For the ButtMonkey variety, their status must be PlayedForLaughs. PJ is played for sympathy, ergo, not an example.
2. The character\\\'s fatness must be in some way related to his status as a ButtMonkey or PluckyComicRelief character. PJ\\\'s ButtMonkey status is almost entirely due to being an abused child, \\\"under the thumb\\\" of a guy who\\\'s just as fat as he is. So he\\\'s not an example for this reason either.
UPDATE: FatComicRelief has been launched, The Fat Guy was put on the cutlist, and FatComicRelief\\\'s new description has folded in the objections to PJ being an example.
The discussion on that YKTTW made two things clear that make PJ not an example:
1. For the ButtMonkey variety, their status must be PlayedForLaughs. PJ is played for sympathy, ergo, not an example.
2. The character\\\'s fatness must be in some way related to his status as a ButtMonkey or PluckyComicRelief character. PJ\\\'s ButtMonkey status is almost entirely due to being an abused child, \\\"under the thumb\\\" of a guy who\\\'s just as fat as he is. So he\\\'s not an example for this reason either.
UPDATE: FatComicRelief has been launched, The Fat Guy was put on the cutlist, and FatComicRelief\\\'s new description has folded in the objections to PJ being an example.
