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underCoverSailsman Since: Jan, 2021
19th Mar, 2021 10:00:02 AM

Can you link to a copy of the cover, or Marvel's promo material? Might help us to look at some context.

Walkinshadows Since: Jun, 2012
19th Mar, 2021 10:17:48 AM

Would volume number work?

According to Wikipedia, the current one is number 6.

Edited by Walkinshadows
MichaelKatsuro Since: Apr, 2011
19th Mar, 2021 10:27:45 AM

I support volume number.

FuzzyBarbarian Since: Jan, 2017
19th Mar, 2021 10:34:10 AM

Cover and its page on the Marvel wiki: https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Iron_Man_Vol_6_1

I figured the volume was an option, but that's something that this site really doesn't do, and really only the wikis do. Like, actual comics sites up to and including Comixology and Marvel themselves don't even do that anymore, it's kind of an old fashioned thing that makes things annoying to follow, e.g. whenever an annual happens or if something is renumbered with legacy numbering, which Marvel do like to do. If there's no other option it could work.

A clunky if more consistent and I guess "safe" (?) option would I guess be to make it:

  • Iron Man 2020 — Disambiguation
  • Iron Man 2020 (Graphic Novel) — For the 1994 GN if it ever gets a work page (which it might, because I've found work pages for obscurer things tbh)
  • Iron Man 2020 (Event) - For the 2020 limited series and its tie-ins
  • Iron Man 2020 (Ongoing) - For the current ongoing series that started in 2020

Edited by FuzzyBarbarian
mightymewtron Since: Oct, 2012
19th Mar, 2021 10:40:36 AM

^ You can't say a work page is ongoing because one day it won't be.

Maybe disambiguate by their authors, if possible?

v Oh, you mean ongoing as in comic lingo. Gotcha.

Edited by mightymewtron I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
FuzzyBarbarian Since: Jan, 2017
19th Mar, 2021 10:42:21 AM

Ongoing refers to the release format of the series which is used with comics, e.g. ongoing, limited, one-shot, graphic novel. A series being referred to as an ongoing doesn't mean it's currently ongoing.

I was told in the unreleased works thread that we aren't doing the author name thing anymore.

Edited by FuzzyBarbarian
Tabs MOD Since: Jan, 2001
19th Mar, 2021 10:47:21 AM

^ By that, we meant that we don't do "Alice Smith's So-and-So". Disambiguating "So-and-So (Alice Smith)" is sometimes done with fan fiction and other works that share a name and can't always be disambiguated by other ways.

"Ongoing" is probably fine too?

crazysamaritan MOD Since: Apr, 2010
19th Mar, 2021 10:48:55 AM

By author means to put the title first, then the author's name. Comics and authors gets head-achy, since even if X is listed as the lead writer, Marvel executive Y is still in charge and an individual issue may have been mostly written by Z.

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FuzzyBarbarian Since: Jan, 2017
19th Mar, 2021 10:52:12 AM

Yeah, the author thing I've only seen used for last resorts or works already done that encompass multiple series, like Grant Morrison's Batman.

So the Graphic Novel/Event/Ongoing thing then?

Edited by FuzzyBarbarian
underCoverSailsman Since: Jan, 2021
19th Mar, 2021 11:16:20 AM

Where/How/Are the other volumes troped?

FuzzyBarbarian Since: Jan, 2017
19th Mar, 2021 11:35:32 AM

It seems like examples usually go on Iron Man. But that's also one of those pages that seems to double/triple as a character/franchise page.

Usually, we do the year thing, like with Uncanny X-Men, Uncanny X-Men (2011), Uncanny X-Men (2013), Uncanny X Men 2015 and Uncanny X-Men (2018) and just separate by series (or volumes, I guess), but he's been an exception for some reason.

Edited by FuzzyBarbarian
FuzzyBarbarian Since: Jan, 2017
20th Mar, 2021 01:49:55 AM

So, if there's no objection, I'm going to do the Graphic Novel/Event/Ongoing naming scheme for the Iron Man 2020 pages just because it's the cleanest and most consistent option.

(I also forgot to mention with the Volume use, another reason I think it fell out of favour is, well, collected editions, which use volumes like other mediums do, so I would definitely recommend against it)

Edited by FuzzyBarbarian
Jhiday (Don’t ask)
20th Mar, 2021 01:57:20 AM

Maybe use "Series" instead of "Ongoing" ? i.e. Iron Man 2020 Series custom-titled as "Iron Man (2020 Series)".

Edited by Jhiday
FuzzyBarbarian Since: Jan, 2017
20th Mar, 2021 02:06:41 AM

The problem is "series" is any comic book that is released as, well, a series — miniseries OR ongoing. So using the word would require "Iron Man 2020 (Event Miniseries)" and "Iron Man 2020 (Ongoing Series)", because they're both series. The only one that isn't is the original Graphic Novel.

I think the "Ongoing" thing is something that people who'd visit the page would be able to discern the meaning of, tbh, especially if it just has a thing at the end of the lead section noting the reason for the name (and linking to the other work).

Edited by FuzzyBarbarian
Tabs MOD Since: Jan, 2001
20th Mar, 2021 12:36:30 PM

Yeah, go with ongoing, especially since that's the most specific vocabulary to disambiguate by.

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