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WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
4th Oct, 2020 07:15:18 PM

Not to mention the characters page draft has a lot of glaring issues- such as ZCEs and one example with First-Person Writing in it.

Edit: And plaigarism...

Edited by WarJay77 Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
Karxrida Since: May, 2012
4th Oct, 2020 07:33:02 PM

As far as I know, being edit banned/suspended does not automatic preclude the privilege to participate in TLP. I'm pretty sure TLP bans are separate.

Plagiarism is a huge red flag though. They should probably be given a tap.

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WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
4th Oct, 2020 07:35:48 PM

I'm not sure why that is though. I've seen people get double-banned for using the TLP to circumvent Edit Bans, and making a TLP draft is an attempt to get new content added to the wiki- which is the thing an Edit Ban is meant to avoid letting people do. I feel like it's some form of Evasion, as they're trying to get around their ban by making other people launch the trope and fix their mistakes.

Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
4th Oct, 2020 07:46:52 PM

Also his TLP suggestions... aren't great?

Eloquent Skeleton boils down to "a skeletal character who can speak" note  and then there's Shallow Deconstruction, which as I pointed out has a decent idea buried in it but was really poorly done and his responses just aren't... right? Also in the latter's case it was made with a dearth of examples, bad grammar, and nonexistent wiki syntax but... yeah.

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WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
4th Oct, 2020 08:01:06 PM

They also admitted they have no incentive to learn the rules due to their ban, meaning we can't expect them to improve.

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mightymewtron Since: Oct, 2012
4th Oct, 2020 08:23:30 PM

They did appeal again a short while ago, and Septimus says they still need to use Get Help With English. They did use it recently, and still have issues with grammar and typos, but I'm not sure what the standards are for using TLP to make work pages if you're banned. They can't make the work pages from TLP, and others can clean up their English and grammar before launching, so I guess it's not really evasion, per se?

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WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
4th Oct, 2020 08:29:22 PM

I personally consider it evasion just because it's still an attempt to add content to the wiki and people would have to clean up after them to make anything viable. Plus, their TLP record is simply not good and other people would have to launch the pages for them, which is making someone else do the hard work of crosswicking and preparing for launch.

I mean, it's up to the mods I guess, but this is how I feel about it.

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mightymewtron Since: Oct, 2012
4th Oct, 2020 08:47:08 PM

Also, since it wasn't mentioned yet: they tried to make a work page in TLP a short while ago to get around their ban, and were informed of the plagiarism and typo issues back then.

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gjjones Since: Jul, 2016
4th Oct, 2020 08:59:38 PM

In that case, I think a potential IP check would be necessary.

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Kevjro7 Since: Jan, 2020
4th Oct, 2020 11:19:47 PM

^ Why? If they were using a separate account for ban evasion, I would understand. But that's not what they're doing here.

SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
5th Oct, 2020 01:10:20 AM

IP check didn't turn up anything, and I don't see why it was needed. That said, their TLP contributions are bad enough to justify a suspension from there as well.

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