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Added my opinion to the discussion page and trimmed some stuff you readded that's more Audience Reaction-related. Let's just discuss the page more instead, this is something that can be hashed out without edit warring. YMMV potholes should for the most part not be in the description, and a lot of the description did display some things in an opinionated light (i.e. "unfortunately, CN Real happened", "fortunately it died" as a paraphrase). I kept Periphery Demographic because it's an exception; the description itself pointed out that the network was intentionally trying to invoke it.
I didn't see him adding any subjectives, just deleting a ridiculous amount of the description instead of trying to reword it without the potholes. For one, CN Real was completely deleted while the other major channel blocks remained mentioned.
Edited by Darkaros
So it's a poorly enforced rule i guess. And shouldn't Network Decay be there too as it is "invoked"...then again, i always thought Network Decay is more of a Trivial Fact.
And yet despite the hopes of a truce, the edit war still continues. Apparently he was not happy with your edits either. What gives? We really could use mod intervention here.
Edited by Gundamforce
I've suspended IM Boring. This is the second time he's been pulled up on ATT for pulling valid material. Last time I tried the PM approach and he didn't deign to respond.
CN Real existed and seems to be worth mentioning. I can see how "a huge backlash from the animation community and older fans prompted a return to the network's signature "cartoon" programming." could be construed as shading into (negative) opinion. But I thought there was broad agreement that this occurred.
Talking about negative fan reactions is ticklish territory and I'm not 100% sure I'm accurately relating site policy. My sense is that we don't want to join in with bashing, speak for "all fans", or shy away from saying there was a negative reaction when that's pertinent info.
Edited by Camacan
There's some Edit warring on the Cartoon Network page. Tropers.I Am Boring keeps removing and changing any content that mentions the "CN Real" and "renaissance" eras (and a few other things too) on the page to whatever he wants, only saying "No YMMV items on the main page", which is ironic considering that he himself has put YMMV stuff on the main page (not to mention that there is a bunch of YMMV stuff still there, even before this edit war), and really sounds more like "I want this description done my way" rather than issues of having subjective tropes. I even tried to make a compromise, but he just continued on with his edit warring. Can I get a resolution on this? Yes the network has been in a bit of a rut lately, but I know that we can describe the network with a description that can make all sides happy.
Also, what is the rule when it comes to YMMV and Audience Reaction potholes and mentions when it comes to a work's/network's/creator's/etc. description? The only thing I know is that these shouldn’t be used as an example to a trope with the exception of In-Universe examples. If there’s a rule using those in a description, then all I can say that it is poorly enforced around the wiki. If not, then I smell a need for mod intervention on this page.
Edited by Gundamforce