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Did TeamTony ever show up to the last ATT?
A quick CTRL+F of the word "Tony" in the last ATT thread
suggests no, they did not.
They did post in discussion on the Discussion Page for Heartwarming.Game Of Thrones though, which was the issue for that original ATT thread.
Sent them a PM before we end up taking another action.
There was another ATT thread about Team Tony about a year ago.
Yeah they really won't let this go and have come up quite a few times about this at this point
"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
Yeah, this guy has some serious hateboner
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Again?
Looking over this round of hate, I see deletions that could have been reworded, and others that are simply his straight-up character hate. Take them all to the discussion pages again, just undo them, or what?
At this point, I'm tired of cleaning up this guy's messes.
I'm surprised they've lasted this long.
I sent them a PM inviting them to participate in this thread.
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Hi.
First off, I am in fact a She.
Secondly, half the things I deleted were very close to being straight up Sansa hate, so the hypocrisy here is noted.
Thirdly, I only deleted or edited things that were blatantly incorrect or being way too sympathetic to a horrific murderer. I do not think that counts as hate, but you guys do you.
I also do not recall having any kind of discussion about my Daenerys hate, if you can call disliking a mass murderer hate, before. Other than once being told not to use bullshit in an evidence reason.
I am guessing this is about where I deleted the Nice Breaking It Hero type entrys? Cant remember what the other entries were, but they were along the same vein. I just dont think its fair to blame Sansa and/or Varys for the actions of Daenerys when they only acted the way they did because she had already been unnecessarily violent and cruel. They were absolutely right.
Bump so this doesn't get buried
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It looks like this thread got buried again. Here's a bump. Apologies if two bumps in a row isn't really kosher.
Sorry to bump this again, but now they're off editing examples on UnintentionallyUnsympathetic.Game Of Thrones again with an anti-Dany slant. Dunno enough about the show to know if their edits are proper, but their reasons are a bit heated.
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Again?!?!?!
No, they aren't proper. She's saying other people's opinions are invalid— nobody is allowed to find Daenerys sympathetic, nobody is allowed to find Sansa unsympathetic, shoehorning in the equivalent of "ACTUALLY". At that point in the show, Daenerys hadn't done any worse than any other would-be or actual monarch on the show. She was sometimes ruthless— just like other characters. She executed her enemies, sometimes in horribly painful ways— just like other characters. She demanded that other rulers bend the knee— just like other characters. But when Daenerys does those things, some viewers decide it's double standard time, she's the Worst Person Ever.
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^ May want to chill out a bit.
The user has been suspended, since this is a persistent issue that indicates a wonk of a singular nature.
Repeatedly revisiting the same stuff for months is frustrating but I could have expressed that in a more level-headed way. I'm getting heated over them getting heated which just makes more... heat.
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My cooled down response to this:
Those edits essentially removed the opinions of other viewers and inserted comments to undercut them. The original text explained what the opinions were and why people held those opinions. YMMV like this should be documenting different opinions, and viewers aren't all going to agree with each other.
This round of Team Tony's edits, however, were not about correcting factual errors in interpreting the text; they were disagreeing with having different responses to that text. Inserting "...and also because she has already burned innocents alive and executed people in inhumane and barbaric ways" for instance was unnecessarily inserting a swipe at Daenerys to undercut the opinion some have that Varys's behavior was unsympathetic— inserting a reason to sympathize in an explanation of why some people don't, making the example argue with itself.
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Well you can safely revert now
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To be clear, the reason I had to ask first was because I'm not very familiar with the events of Game of Thrones. I know a lot of the beats but not all the context and nuance, so for all I knew their edits were factual and accurate but poorly argued for. However, with confirmation that they were just deleting subjective points with biased reasoning, we definitely need to revert it.
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I undid Tony's four most recent edits on UnintentionallyUnsympathetic.Game Of Thrones due to those being the last straw.
Edit: I just noticed that Tony's edits on Recap.Game Of Thrones S 8 E 5 The Bells weren't reverted despite her other recap page edits being reverted, so I took care of it.
Edited by Kevjro7
Thank you so much, Kevjro 7! Never got around to either rewriting or just restoring on that recap page since there were several items to discuss and got busy with other things.
I hate to bring this up again, but Team Tony has made some questionable deletions in Recap.Game Of Thrones S 8 E 1 Winterfell, Recap.Game Of Thrones S 8 E 4 The Last Of The Starks, and Recap.Game Of Thrones S 8 E 5 The Bells, leaving edit reasons that can be summed up as, "nuh-uh, Dany doesn't get any sympathy after what she did".
...Okay, that might be my frustration talking. The point stands, Team Tony removed entries that doubt Sansa's competence and/or show Dany's redeeming qualities.
I didn't send any notifiers, because we've had this discussion about their anti-Dany bias before (several times, in fact), and if those didn't stick then I doubt one PM will.