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GnomeTitan Since: Aug, 2013
12th Dec, 2017 03:45:28 AM

Well, a quick Google search turned up this book which seems relevant: https://books.google.se/books/about/CorrespondAAncia_amorosa_entre_Salazar_e.html?id=JBgUAAAACAAJ&redir_esc=y

EDITED: It's a collection of love letters and the title says it's between Salazar and Marilyn. It could, of course, be fictional, but the author is given as Salazar himself.

Edited by GnomeTitan
Candi Since: Aug, 2012
12th Dec, 2017 06:43:03 AM

That... doesn't necessarily add anything to its veracity. Fanfic and romantic idealization of a star didn't start with the net.

Considering that book and the TVT page are the only results I get on the topic in the first three pages of multiple Google searches -while there's tons of stuff about other people she exchanged letters and whatnot with, I think it should at the very least be pulled to the discussion page for now.

Coming back to where you started is not the same as never leaving. -Terry Pratchett
Ghilz Since: Jan, 2001
12th Dec, 2017 06:46:16 AM

I mean, it's not people dating others who are way older is that rare. Ashton Kutcher (27) Married Demi Moore (43) in 2005 Madonna (33) and Warren Beatty (53) in 1991 Especially in hollywood

Like, are there any actual source that they weren't involved.

WaterBlap Since: May, 2014
12th Dec, 2017 06:50:42 AM

Courtesy Link: Marilyn Monroe, history page

The thing about penpals was added by faunas.

Is the thing about "geringonça" that they added to InsultBackfire.Real Life real? Or the (Portugese) "reports" saying what faunas is claiming they say on Series.The Crown 2016?

Look at all that shiny stuff ain't they pretty
GnomeTitan Since: Aug, 2013
12th Dec, 2017 07:05:03 AM

Candi: That's why I was being cautious about the book. The fact that Amazon lists Salazar as the author doesn't mean that it's genuine - however, it shows that the assertion that such letters exists is not as ludicrous as the OP claims. It may eb false, but there's been a book published about it.

Anyway, I merely wanted to provide an entry point for people interested in going deeper into the issue.

Edited by GnomeTitan
WaterBlap Since: May, 2014
12th Dec, 2017 07:14:52 AM

Whether that book exists or not is a bit dubious. It's "out of print" on Amazon with no description, no cover, and very little information on the physical characteristics of the book. I don't think Lightning Source or Create Space has ever gotten their hands on a copy. They may simply have copied from some old archive that Google did. This google search comes up with plenty of entries for that one book, but for something published in 1997, there doesn't seem to be much information on it.

Also the fact that it was published in 1997 even though the guy who is credited as the author (not the same as who published it) died in 1970.

Look at all that shiny stuff ain't they pretty
Xtifr Since: Jan, 2001
12th Dec, 2017 09:23:46 AM

The Other Wiki doesn't mention anything about it on either the Monroe page or the Salazar page. As for the book, the fact that it's allegedly a collection of love-letters means it makes perfect sense for it to have been published after both parties had died. But there's also a lot of literary hoaxes out there. And the book doesn't seem to have attracted the attention of Monroe scholars—which is a bit surprising.

I'd say we have two options: first, say that a book makes this claim, without asserting that the book is correct, or, second, remember that we're not here to trope real people, and simply cut it and perhaps other irrelevant information from the Monroe page. We're not a gossip site! Our pages should be about works, not people.

(As you might guess, I lean towards the second solution. But then, in the interest of fair disclosure, I also don't think we need most actor pages. If it were up to me, we'd only have pages for actors who improvise or write—actual trope creators, in other words.)

Speaking words of fandom: let it squee, let it squee.
GnomeTitan Since: Aug, 2013
12th Dec, 2017 12:47:38 PM

Actors are creators (acting is creating, not just aping) and I think actor pages are useful as long as they discussthe actor’s work.

But I agree that this exampke should be cut because it’s troping Marilyn’s personal life, and gossip to boot.

mlsmithca (Edited uphill both ways)
12th Dec, 2017 12:58:22 PM

Where the edit to Series.The Crown 2016 is concerned, it seems a bit nitpicky - isn't Artistic License – History the shuffling of historical fact in the interest of advancing or simplifying narrative? I admit to not having seen the episode in question, so someone who has done is better placed to offer a verdict on this, but how important is it that they showed it as raining when it didn't rain, showed the airline involved as being BOAC instead of BEA, and didn't mention the Anglo-Portuguese Treaty? (The 600th anniversary of which would be 1973 anyway, not the era covered by the second series of The Crown.)

Perhaps I'm the one who's being nitpicky...

Fighteer MOD (Time Abyss)
12th Dec, 2017 01:06:07 PM

I agree with cutting it as gossip, regardless of any truth value it may hold.

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Candi Since: Aug, 2012
12th Dec, 2017 09:48:03 PM

@Gnome Titan. Sorry, I wasn't being clear. I was referring to the (much more likely now) possibility the book was essentially fanfiction, whether written by Salazar or someone else.

Coming back to where you started is not the same as never leaving. -Terry Pratchett
alnair20aug93 (Long Runner)
14th Dec, 2017 07:31:35 AM

Done cutting.

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