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DarkHunter Since: Jan, 2001
21st Jun, 2016 04:21:26 PM

His removal of Not So Different seems appropriate, as that trope does have a Real Life section and does not have a "No Real Life" tag on its page. Unless I am getting this backwards and Not So Different should be In-Universe Only and for some reason hasn't been cleaned up as such.

Less sure about Scandal Gate, which does have the latter.

supergod Since: Jun, 2012
21st Jun, 2016 05:00:08 PM

He also added a line about real life examples being fine for some of those, unless it's specified otherwise. I'm still not sure whether having real life examples of tropes that are supposed to be In-Universe only makes sense or not. At first I thought that meant that listing critics opinions and such was allowed on some of those tropes, but after a quick browse, that doesn't seem to be the case.

Edited by supergod For we shall slay evil with logic...
Someoneman Since: Nov, 2011
21st Jun, 2016 05:02:10 PM

^ Not So Different could be IUEO in that it should only count as an example if the resemblance is pointed out within the work. If tropers were misusing it by adding works where the similarities between two groups or character existed but were not mentioned and were based on the viewer's opinion, then it belongs on the page.

supergod Since: Jun, 2012
21st Jun, 2016 05:17:08 PM

Reading through the Real Life section of that trope, I'm thinking that it should be limited to In Universe Examples if it isn't already supposed to be, if only because some of those examples are unsupported, biased and/or downright stupid. That subtitles example... yuck.

Also, doesn't the trope require the similarities to be made very clear by the work, usually with the characters themselves realizing it?

Edited by supergod For we shall slay evil with logic...
war877 Since: Dec, 2015
21st Jun, 2016 07:25:56 PM

Most tropes it does not make sense to make in universe examples only, because they are inherently in universe tropes. I think Not So Different is one of these.

Candi Since: Aug, 2012
21st Jun, 2016 07:51:18 PM

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
22nd Jun, 2016 12:17:53 AM

Seems like an issue that should be sorted out by discussion.

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MagBas Since: Jun, 2009
22nd Jun, 2016 02:15:49 PM

Based in the replies, i guess this was an unilateral deletion.

MagBas Since: Jun, 2009
24th Jun, 2016 01:11:39 PM

Well, i opened a discussion about this in the discussion page. Must the tropes be readded to the list until the end of the discussion, considering that this was an unilateral deletion?

Fighteer MOD (Time Abyss)
24th Jun, 2016 02:13:47 PM

I don't see any reason to permit someone to remove tropes from that article without discussion. Put them back. It's not an edit war unless he deletes them again.

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war877 Since: Dec, 2015
24th Jun, 2016 02:29:18 PM

IUEO is not an ordinary article. Otherwise I'd agree. It sounds like some of the tropes were never IUEO to begin with.

Edited by war877
Karxrida Since: May, 2012
24th Jun, 2016 07:07:18 PM

I've reverted all of the changes.

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war877 Since: Dec, 2015
24th Jun, 2016 07:32:39 PM

Both those tropes went to TRS to discuss IUEO. Scandal Gate was successfully voted IUEO. Unless there was another TRS afterwards, it is IUEO.

Not So Different stalled without a vote and no other form of resolution was reached. It was never IUEO.

Edited by war877
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