Romance

My problem is not with the "You should consider me to be someone who knows what I'm talking about because I have experience with it," it's the "You should shut up because I know better than you due to my experience," especially considering that you have no idea whether you know better than someone else, because you don't know anything about them.

It's fair to consider yourself an authority on a subject. It's not fair to consider yourself the authority on a subject when you're in a room full of strangers.

Well, Alice having firsthand experience with something is a decent reason to think she might be better qualified to speak about it than Bob, who doesn't have that experience. But why would it make sense to assume that Bob doesn't have that experience, if he hasn't said a word about it?

edited 3rd Mar '15 11:02:00 AM by SolipSchism

Also, I'm disappointed that Ad Hominem page doesn't mention that attributing it in positive way also counts

That or my philosophy books have lied to me

That's why Ripley, who survived the Alien, was the only Genre Savvy person in the entire universe in the sequel.

Because she had experience and no one else did and they were all like, "Yeah, butch, tough, kill, AH GOD IT'S LAYING EGGS IN MY CHEST"

Well, yeah, but you do have to admit that technically having experience itself doesn't matter to whether argument is right or wrong, its more of an evidence thing :p Though that is pretty much semantics I suppose. I mean, its not really much different from "All mice I have seen have been small, so all mice are small", its incorrect logic but its still true. Then somebody posts pic of real life giant mouse <_<

edited 3rd Mar '15 11:10:53 AM by SpookyMask

Oh, well, yeah, that's a matter of faulty logic. I'm just saying it makes sense to lend more weight to the testimony of someone who has firsthand experience with something compared to somebody who doesn't have that experience. It doesn't make sense to take their word as scripture, but if it's Alice against Bob on the subject of trains, and Alice is a conductor, and Bob is a fry cook, it's probably safe to say that Alice is better qualified to speak.

Ye, not arguing against that

Had my first sustained conversation with Shiva in about 6 weeks. She seemed responsive and not particularly awkward, so either she's forgotten my attempted ask out of (checks phone contacts) January 19th, or simply moved on.

Idk. About 6 weeks left of the semester, i might as well push a little again. If not, she goes to South Africa this summer and i start on some dating sites like i said (since i'll be staying right here).

Can't hurt to try. She's just... agh. Paralyzingly pretty.

@Schism: The whole 'alcohol reveals your true self' thing is nice in theory. In practice, I've learned the hard way never to get drunk around anyone I might be romantically interested in.

@Odd1: I guess? I'm not getting the reference

@Spooky: That sounds more like an Appeal to Authority than an ad hominem, really.

Mache dich, mein Herze, rein...

The key is not to get drunk, but to, if possible, drink a couple of glasses (e.g. wine, liquor) or bottles (e.g. beer bottles) in order to become a bit more relaxed and open.

No need to go towards excesses. Moderation is key.

edited 3rd Mar '15 3:04:01 PM by Quag15

Drink a couple of bottles of wine!

Fair enough, but I still like to get people drunk. Drunk people are funny. I mean, until they start throwing up, that's less funny.

You never met or saw drunk people fighting? Lucky you!

To be fair, only some people can truly take 2 bottles of wine. In case I want to stay a bit self-aware, I can only drink a bottle of wine, and it depends on the percentage of alcohol it has.

edited 3rd Mar '15 3:29:13 PM by Quag15

@Quag: That's the plan. I've just got to take care not to hit the tipping point where I stop caring about how many glasses I've had

Mache dich, mein Herze, rein...

I'm perversely proud of my ability to put away a bottle of wine. First time I did that, I didn't manage to keep much of it down. Now it's nuthin'.

Next stop, two bottles. Once I can put away two bottles of wine and still walk straight, I'll call that a win. A high-functioning alcoholic win.

I once drank a bottle of wine within the space of an hour or two, and still functioned reasonably afterwards. But that was after I'd cycled 140 km in a day. On those long cycling trips, you can eat and drink like a horse.

Mache dich, mein Herze, rein...

I remember I was flying after I had two martinis on my 25th birthday. :)

I smell magic in the air. Or maybe barbecue.

Done like a true Dutch.

Shaken, not stirred, or something different?

I've had nights like that. Especially if you're drinking something you've never had before. It must have something to do with the way it's metabolized—having a high tolerance is one thing, but for some reason if all you drink is wine, vodka or whiskey or what-have-you will hit you like a train.

Dirty, with top-shelf gin, two olives, shaken vigorously with the olives. The last part is important.

edited 3rd Mar '15 4:03:46 PM by SolipSchism

I can't quite remember. They were sweet, though. :)

I smell magic in the air. Or maybe barbecue.

Nice choice. Favourite gin?

edited 3rd Mar '15 4:20:38 PM by Quag15

At home I'm partial to tried-and-true Seagram's Extra Dry, because it's cheap and not terrible.

But when I'm out and about, I just ask for the top-shelf stuff, and I don't have enough experience to really say what's the best top-shelf gin. I know I like Beefeater, and I think I've had Tanqueray, but it's been too long to recall. And I know I've had Bombay Sapphire, but the drink was very poorly mixed so I can't say whether the gin was to my taste or not.

So I guess I'd say Beefeater?

Usually I'm more a vodka drinker, I just have a major weakness for dirty martinis (and, contrary to what some may tell you, a "martini" is gin-based—if you're using vodka, it's a vodka martini. That's my story and I'm stickin' to it!)

Ask me about vodka, though—I have very strong opinions about vodka. :p

edited 3rd Mar '15 4:27:00 PM by SolipSchism

Whiskey's my schtick. Aberlour A'bunadh went down a treat a few nights ago.

-Death Reflects Us-

I don't care for alcohol. Well, except Angry Orchard, I kinda like that.

Aw, man, I thought you'd know that song

Insert witty 'n clever quip here.

Beefeater is nice. I also like Gordon's, but Beefeater is among the best ones.

Whiskey? I'd go with Bushmills or Jameson, personally.

Btw, in case one wants to talk about alcohol in detail or for many more posts, I suggest the Alcohol Thread.

edited 3rd Mar '15 4:46:50 PM by Quag15

I'm still trying to feel my way around my drinks of choice. I have a surprisingly large palate, however. Though i'm not sure i've ever had a martini, orders going back to my cousin's wedding include: Rum & Coke, Scotch on the rocks, Black Russian, and Gin & Tonic. Also know i'm partial to Whiskey and Coke, Blue Hawaii, Blue Kamikaze, and Fuzzy Navel, though blue curacao stains your mouth something fierce.

I'm an Islay fan myself. Give me some Bruichladdich, Octomore would be great, and I'll scratch your back.

Fear the cinnamon sugar swirl. By the Gods, fear it, Laurence.