Catherine- from the creators of Persona

Here's an article that includes a Japanese perspective, since I know a bunch of people were asking about that.

Edited by Moth13 on Feb 28th 2019 at 12:30:41 PM

Something to note, Katherine has a True Endjng as well. I think her and Vincent break up and she takes to a more adventurous and lavish lifestyle as Vincent tries and failsnto get her to date him.

The last shots do suggest she's still into him, but she's basically decided to let loose instead of being stuffy. Just as Catherine reinvents herself in hers.

I think it means the girls themselves become more Chaos(Kath) or Orderly (Cath) in their True Endings.

I like this. It goes well that just mindless hate doesn't lead to any change, nor does boycotting games hurt anyone but the localizers because Japan doesn't care and if you want to change it, you have to make actual efforts to work with Japans LGBT community to get that change, or they'll just accept it due to conformity.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Feb 28th 2019 at 10:22:14 AM

Yeah I was pretty sure japan's lbgt+ community thought it was rubbish too, so this is terribly unsurprising. I'm really tired of people thinking anime and videogames represent all of Japan's culture and their complete ignorance of the broader social landscape in the country.

Holy fuck, the character's own voice actress called it outright bigotry. This must be serious.

Well, if she didn't at least say it was bad and insensitive that would have gone over very poorly and been even worse PR, both for the game and herself. Not that actors haven't doubled down on stupid shit before, or that I don't believe she's being sincere.

Edited by Draghinazzo on Feb 28th 2019 at 7:26:59 AM

For a moment I was wondering if Junko Minagawa had spoken up, but then I realized you were probably talking about the article posted above and were probably referring to Erin Fitzgerald.

Edited by dragonfire5000 on Feb 28th 2019 at 3:26:05 AM

Not surprised she spoke up about it; surprised she'd publicly condemn it so strongly.

A lot of western anime/videogame VA's are very left-leaning (such as Travis Willingham, Laura Bailey, and Liam O'Brien, just to name a few who are also in Catherine) but yeah I guess from the Po V of "strongly criticizing something I'm working on right now" it is pretty significant since that usually doesn't happen.

Edited by Draghinazzo on Feb 28th 2019 at 7:32:47 AM

The last part is what I was surprised by, yes.

I remember Final Fantasy Tactics A2 had a Lizard Folk villainess(Night Dancer) revealed as a transwoman through a mission prohibiting the player from attacking female units, but allowing Night Dancer to be attacked. A recent Fire Emblem game also did similar and I believe Chrono Trigger did that as well from my recollection.

For whatever reason, a lot of media still depicts trans woman for laughs or does the whole "Violence is ok because she's a he, therefore Acceptable Target."

Edited by Monsund on Feb 28th 2019 at 3:37:12 AM

Wait, when did that happen in Fire Emblem?

RE: Iniuria Talis

The villain, Excellus/Exceli was a negative trans woman stereotype. Most of this was quietly removed in the english version, though some of it still remains.

Now you know we know why the character has breasts in their appearance in Tokyo Mirage Sessions ♯FE.

Edited by Monsund on Feb 28th 2019 at 4:00:32 AM

I am floored by how last year's big cheese becomes this year's disaster.

For a moment I thought there was a sequel to this coming out. This game was so under the radar for me that hearing all of this controversy is alarming.

Well, there's nothing positive I can add to this.

Full Body coming to Nintendo Switch on July 2nd

Edited by tclittle on Mar 26th 2020 at 9:32:58 AM