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Demonfly birdie fairy Since: Jul, 2012
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#6428: Jan 15th 2015 at 11:34:22 AM

Madreas looks closer to a succubus than Seraphina.

At least he has horns.

edited 15th Jan '15 11:34:52 AM by Grounder

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#6429: Jan 15th 2015 at 1:52:56 PM

It serves to justify the abilities that she's shown.

Which is more than characters like Etna can claim.

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#6430: Jan 15th 2015 at 2:01:49 PM

And that's about all it seems to justify.

At least Etna thinks she's the goddess of sex appeal (sometimes) and has a tail.

Seraphina?

She has a weak justification for having a heart motif.

edited 15th Jan '15 2:02:23 PM by Grounder

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#6431: Jan 15th 2015 at 2:07:17 PM

And a seduction motif.

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#6432: Jan 15th 2015 at 2:12:16 PM

Fair enough on that point I suppose.

Still wouldn't have hurt to give her something physical to give credence to the succubus thing.

No, pink hair doesn't quite count.

Nor do her breasts in this case.

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#6433: Jan 22nd 2015 at 10:44:01 AM

Well this happened.

The Asagi thing is just announcing her Japanese VA, BTW.

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#6435: Jan 23rd 2015 at 8:53:23 AM

[up]I certainly hope it won't work on Baal.

Speaking of Baal, this game is absolutely going to be his most powerful incarnation thus far.


Some post-battle D5 art.

Highlights include a tiny Skull, a Gunner protecting ladies at a picnic, and an Archer craving some Pirate booty.

edited 23rd Jan '15 8:53:38 AM by Grounder

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#6436: Jan 23rd 2015 at 8:57:21 AM

[up]If Baal turns out to be more powerful than in D2, I may cry.

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#6437: Jan 27th 2015 at 4:16:03 PM

Anime News Network did a translation on Seraphina's character vid.

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#6438: Jan 27th 2015 at 4:27:38 PM

[up]Further confirmation in my mind that Seraphina is an Unreliable Expositor and absolutely not a succubus.

Or Unreliable Narrator, the distinction really isn't that clear.

edited 27th Jan '15 4:28:45 PM by Grounder

followerofcake Since: Dec, 2014
#6439: Jan 27th 2015 at 4:44:46 PM

I don't know why you're so against Seraphina being a succubus. The character vid itself states her as such. Plus, you know, Seraphina having a maougi that's based on her seducing her enemies into attacking each other, having the hair color as the succubus class and being a fanservice character. There really isn't anything to disprove otherwise.

edited 27th Jan '15 4:46:01 PM by followerofcake

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#6440: Jan 27th 2015 at 4:56:31 PM

[up]A lack of either horns or a visible tail.

Hair color and breast size (if nowhere near to the same extent for the latter) don't mean much when those apply to Artina of all people, as well.

For the record, the reverse applies to Overlord Priere, as she claims to not be a succubus despite having most or all of their physical traits and next to none of their typical mental traits.

edited 27th Jan '15 5:02:18 PM by Grounder

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#6441: Jan 27th 2015 at 5:14:04 PM

Aren't succubi shapeshifters anyway? Or am I thinking of a different game?

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#6442: Jan 27th 2015 at 5:18:44 PM

[up]They can turn their tails into things and change their wings into a cape.

I haven't seen anything to suggest they can do things with their horns or remove things completely.

followerofcake Since: Dec, 2014
#6443: Jan 27th 2015 at 5:34:17 PM

[up][up][up] So your argument for Seraphina not being a Succubus is because she lacks the physical traits that the generic succubus class has? Well, it could be because Seraphina is a humanoid unit while the succubi is a monster class. Kinda like with Emizel and the death class.

Otherarrow Since: Jul, 2010
#6444: Jan 27th 2015 at 6:00:57 PM

I don't see how being humanoid would remove the wings and horns.

If I recall, most of the humanoids (Or at least, their D1 designs) have wings, for example, even if small and just for show.

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#6445: Jan 27th 2015 at 6:26:43 PM

^^ Come to think of it, that kind of hints that demons that look humanoid may not be that way in their true form or whatever. Doesn't one of Valvatorez's skills imply that he's actually a humongous freaky black dragon? And Hugo is a reaper that walks around like a human most of the time.

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#6446: Jan 27th 2015 at 6:30:57 PM

[up]Which wouldn't make much sense (not denying it though).

Why be a comparatively puny-looking unit all the time when you can be freaking Godzilla and be physically intimidating?

And if you say that they do it so that they can move tie-in merchandise easier I will slap you.tongue

burnpsy Since: Sep, 2010
#6447: Jan 27th 2015 at 6:32:01 PM

Because that also makes you a bigger target. I would also imagine it would be inconvenient. I'm thinking like what happened when Goku tried to practice using his Super Saiyan form in everyday life during Dragon Ball Z.

edited 27th Jan '15 6:32:41 PM by burnpsy

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#6448: Jan 27th 2015 at 6:35:24 PM

Humongous freaky black dragons don't have hands. Hands are nice. And maybe he knows that monster type characters always seem to end up inferior to humanoid classes.

Though really I'm not sure why succubi are a monster class to begin with.

edited 27th Jan '15 6:36:39 PM by Arha

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#6450: Jan 27th 2015 at 7:25:35 PM

Probably because they have abilities more in line with monsters, than with humanoid characters.

This could be a confusing line of thought to chase down.

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