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Folt Warlock Necromancer from Hollow Bastion! >=D Since: Jun, 2010
Warlock Necromancer
#67476: May 29th 2017 at 11:21:54 AM

I mostly just meant that I'd like the game kept track of the class promoted from as well as the class promoted to. Like, if, in this hypothetical scenario, Hayato got access to Spear Fighter and promoted to Basara from that, he'd have the A Lances B Tomes weapon rank caps instead. Or maybe just get A in both?

Maybe just have it so that they can get a higher weapon rank than is normal for one weapon type only?

Like, taking Hayato, he would get one rank higher in Tome than he normally would, which would make him rather flexible as a Basara (potential A rank in Lances and Tomes) or more offensively geared as an Onmyoji (S Tomes and B Staves).

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Konkfan7 Konknitive Dissonance from Roselle Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Konknitive Dissonance
#67478: May 29th 2017 at 2:15:41 PM

There are a few mechanics I'd like to return from Gaiden/Shadows of Valentia, but probably the one I can see returning the most realistically is dungeon crawling. I actually really enjoy that mechanic.

I also kind of want Mages learning spells to be a thing again too, but I know realistically it probably wouldn't happen.

edited 29th May '17 2:16:45 PM by Konkfan7

dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#67479: May 29th 2017 at 2:40:51 PM

Just got finished with the second battle against Berkut. Damn, got to give props to Ian Sinclair, he really nailed it as Berkut.

Also had a chuckle at Celica's "you couldn't possibly understand!" to her companions. Teenagers, huh? Even in medieval fantasy, they never change...

Lightblade The Shrouded Knight from Philadelphia Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
The Shrouded Knight
#67480: May 29th 2017 at 3:13:08 PM

'Awakening Paralogue 2: The Secret Seller

Another paralogue in which I take on bandits, this time led by this game's version of the bandit brothers. And once the mission starts, I see they apparently dabble in human trafficking, and think Anna would make a good slave. We can't have that, now can we. Anna seemed to be able to hold her own mostly, taking out the Barbarians that threatened the village, but she went down before we could reach her and I started the mission over. On my second try, I brought more mounted units to reach her faster, and that worked much better. But even when I had Chrom talk to her, she still didn't join my party, nor did she join after the mission was over. I'm guessing it wasn't possible to recruit her? Anyway, she did promise some deep discounts if we ever see her again. But more importantly, now that the map is clear, I can now buy Javelins and Hand Axes.

Turns: 11

Heroes: Me and Sully

Awakening Chapter 6: Foreseer

Now back to the main story. I knew when I saw this mission was going to be in Ylisstol that something major was going to go down. And that something was an assassination attempt on the Exalt, that we thankfully were warned about by "Marth". "Marth" also lost her mask in the fighting. Now came the time to protect the Exalt from her would-be killers, led by none other than Validar, the Sorcerer from the Premonition. While the stated objective was to rout the enemy, in practice it was more of a defensive mission. I sent Chrom over, accompanied by Frederick and Lissa, to the west side of the map to talk to Gaius the Thief, who was having second thoughts about being with the group now that their true goal became clear. But what really won him over was candy! This did leaved them in an awkward position with incoming Dark Mages and Chrom with no way to retaliate against ranged attacks, but he and Frederick managed to hold the line and take them out on our next Player Phase. Meanwhile, we had Panne the Taguel join our party after "Marth" assured us that she is an ally despite her dislike of humans in general. We now have a killer rabbit on our side! Once we got our recruiting done, I sent Gaius to unlock the chest in Emmeryn's room while the rest of us sealed off the chokepoints to block the incoming attackers. Once they were taken down, it was time for the confrontation with Validar himself. Apparently, he thought the same thing, because he decided to go in the offensive, too ... after we just wiped the floor with all of his underlings and he was the only enemy left. That worked out about as well as you might expect. Thanks to the forewarning of "Marth", a terrible future has been averted ... for now. But once again, she disappeared after the fight ended.

Turns: 7

Heroes: Me and Sully

And finally, Chrom and Frederick's C support conversation had me literally laughing out loud! I wouldn't be surprised if some fan artist out there tried to make a real version of the posters Frederick commissioned. And no, I don't want to see it.

edited 29th May '17 3:13:58 PM by Lightblade

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#67481: May 29th 2017 at 3:32:36 PM

Just got finished with the second battle against Berkut. Damn, got to give props to Ian Sinclair, he really nailed it as Berkut.
Berkut really adds a lot to the plot, yeah.

I sure said that!
ChrisX ..... from ..... Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Singularity
.....
#67482: May 29th 2017 at 5:11:05 PM

I had to reset on Chapter 11 New Mystery because I forgot to bring my Silver and VIP cards. However, I could have compared the pre-battle banter.

So...

Original: Jagen goes on a long-ass explanation about the history of Anri and his lover Artemis. Guess for Archanea history buffs, it would be great, kind of like the Eight Legends in Elibe. But unfortunately, it just felt like an 'extra' to me.

New Mystery: Jagen shortens the history into a Laconic version. On one hand, it implies that at least Marth reads his own history book, instead of coming off like a Prince that doesn't even know his land's history (dumbass). On the other hand, I think this is where the detractors really come in. First Kris praises Marth saying that he's strong due to being a Magnetic Hero, and Marth... says 'I have many companions. Wonderful companions like you, Kris'. Yep, I guess they ain't kiddin' when they say Kris get singled out. However... what I see is that Kris is just one but many companions accompanying Marth, not just him being the only one that matters, very sure he'll say the same to the rest if they even talked to him like that. But just to decrease redundancy, I guess he'll just cut off to the guy who actually talked to him (and praised him).

... All right, I'll give it +1 Sue point. 7.5 points. Honestly, I'm still not convinced that Kris is the second worst thing to embrace FE history just behind Conquest!Corrin (which I kind of disagree about the bashing about them)... but at this point I can understand why people say they are pissed. There are 24 chapters, if Kris reaches 12 points, I guess I can say that I may be agreeing on the guys here... without falling to bile. I'll just chalk it as 'I'm fine with Kris, but IS dropped the balls on it, they made Kris with elements that could generate hatred on fans. But I'll forgive it since it's their first attempt on a talking Avatar (after Mark).'

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#67483: May 29th 2017 at 5:11:52 PM

Berkut having a mental breakdown after the border battle was some of the best voice acting I've heard in a Nintendo game at all.

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SapphireBlue from California Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#67484: May 29th 2017 at 6:47:07 PM

So I'm probably the last to find out, but I just got Blazing Blade and Sacred Stones on the Wii U's virtual console, and I noticed they (and presumably all Virtual Console games) have savestate functionality.

I mean, I'd very much prefer to finish them the way they were meant to be played, but damn. That's going to be really tempting when I hit the harder chapters.

edited 29th May '17 6:47:45 PM by SapphireBlue

Emperordaein Grant us eyes from Australia Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
Grant us eyes
#67485: May 30th 2017 at 3:12:12 AM

If they made Echoes: Jugdral (Genealogy/Thracia), I do wonder: What scenes would be turned into animated cutscenes for the game? I mean, there's the obvious one (Belhalla), but what else?

Actually, Belhalla might be a problem. The original I think could get away with how horrific the original was due to using the overworld sprites. For an animated version... You have to show Sigurd being atomised by Fala Flame onscreen. I say atomised, because there is no way Nintendo would let there be any implication of his charred corpse being left behind. That isn't even getting into the fate of the others, although they can use more subdued C Gs for that.

A corpse should be left well enough alone...
Nouct insert commentary here from an east coast Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies
Folt Warlock Necromancer from Hollow Bastion! >=D Since: Jun, 2010
Warlock Necromancer
#67487: May 30th 2017 at 4:48:22 AM

[up] It is also restricted to characters from Shadow Dragon, Awakening, and Fates.

Fantastic Supreme Überkaiser Emperor Folt of The Infinity and Beyond" ... "The First"!
Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#67488: May 30th 2017 at 4:51:10 AM

[up][up][up]I mean, the setting could be changed a little so that Sigurd and crew are in the castle proper before it gets Valflame'd to hell, with the last shot being a deeply troubled Sigurd's face that is suddenly obscured by a gout of flame. It'd get the point across without delving into the gruesome shit.

[up]*Sigh*

... It'd be nice if the Gaiden cast got invited too, at least.

edited 30th May '17 4:52:07 AM by Pulse

I sure said that!
Bur Chaotic Neutral from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Not war
#67489: May 30th 2017 at 4:58:34 AM

All interest, gone.

i. hear. a. sound.
AceOfScarabs I am now a shiny stone~ from Singapore Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
I am now a shiny stone~
#67490: May 30th 2017 at 5:00:13 AM

Celica sure ain't above it all

The three finest things in life are to splat your enemies, drive them from their turf, and hear their lamentations as their rank falls!
Folt Warlock Necromancer from Hollow Bastion! >=D Since: Jun, 2010
Warlock Necromancer
#67491: May 30th 2017 at 5:04:31 AM

[up][up][up] It honestly makes sense though. Limit the cast for the first outing, then expand with DLC or sequel.

edited 30th May '17 5:06:34 AM by Folt

Fantastic Supreme Überkaiser Emperor Folt of The Infinity and Beyond" ... "The First"!
Folt Warlock Necromancer from Hollow Bastion! >=D Since: Jun, 2010
Warlock Necromancer
#67492: May 30th 2017 at 5:23:46 AM

Also, they've said that the playable cast for this Musou will be larger than any other First Musou game.

If the OG twins have customizable movesets based on every standard FE class, there's plenty of reason for why they might want to restrict what characters they can choose for the first outing.

edited 30th May '17 5:24:02 AM by Folt

Fantastic Supreme Überkaiser Emperor Folt of The Infinity and Beyond" ... "The First"!
Folt Warlock Necromancer from Hollow Bastion! >=D Since: Jun, 2010
Warlock Necromancer
#67493: May 30th 2017 at 5:39:12 AM

Oh, and triple posting, but here's some snippets from that article that I found interesting:

  • The weapon triangle, high strategy elements, and classes that are mainstay in the Fire Emblem series are in.
  • The reason all the protagonists from the Fire Emblem games are not being included is because if they did that, everyone would be using a sword.
  • You can switch characters while playing, so you'll be able to control various weapons and classes of characters.
  • Archers and magic users will be playable.
  • Units that ride a horse, such as the Cavalier, always fight on horse. They're designed to have high mobility.
  • "Bond Conversations" are being prepared as support conversations. There is a huge amount of text, including serious conversations and goofy conversations.

Bolded stuff being particularly interesting to me, mostly because it's stuff I've hoped for. That puts it closer to games like Samurai Warriors Chronicles 3 and HW Legends and that's great because I enjoyed both of those Musou games!

Some other stuff they said was that it is currently 70% complete and that it was in planned before Famitsu's collaboration Musou title survey (y'know, the one where it landed fourth place amongst which game series the fans would want Musou gameplay off).

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TPPR10 Shocking Gun! from out of nowhere Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Shocking Gun!
#67494: May 30th 2017 at 5:41:19 AM

Shion's hairstyle burn my eyes. Lian looks fine.

Also:

The reason all the protagonists from the Fire Emblem games are not being included is because if they did that, everyone would be using a sword.

Ephraim and Hector are crying in a corner.

Honestly, my only real wishes for characters are Veronica -and tag team of Candace and Nichol

Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!
AlphaVII Mecha and Waifu, become one! from A part of the endless starry sky Since: Apr, 2016 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Mecha and Waifu, become one!
#67495: May 30th 2017 at 6:06:38 AM

FE Warriors is using only original/Awakening/Fates characters?

Yawn...... how boring and predictable.

Honestly kills some of my hype for it....

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IceAnt573 Forever not amused. Since: May, 2015
Forever not amused.
#67496: May 30th 2017 at 7:43:15 AM

Some outlets are using "only" others are using "mostly."

Siliconera is using "mostly" and this translator goes into detail about how Famitsu used "primary" and he feels more comfortable with the term "only" because it didn't specify what other games would be in.

Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#67497: May 30th 2017 at 8:40:21 AM

I'm impressed. KT managed to create a pair of OCs that make me pine for Alfonse. I hope they're customizable, but I'm not getting my hopes up.

Not surprised they're going the mostly SD/Awakening/Fates route after Tokyo Mirage Sessions, but it still sucks. Yeah we'll get the others in via DLC, but that's forking over more money to get some decent characters.

TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#67498: May 30th 2017 at 8:42:19 AM

This does kill my hype a little, yeah.

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#67499: May 30th 2017 at 8:46:17 AM

I would prefer it to have previous games but I like the Awakening and Fates casts so it doesn't really bother me but I do think it's a little odd that Alm and Celica might not make it.

This song needs more love.
SapphireBlue from California Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#67500: May 30th 2017 at 8:50:40 AM

I might bite if it turns out to be a "mostly" rather than "only." Otherwise, I'm not interested.

And for the record, I like Fates and Awakening, but I also like the rest of the series. Crap like this just encourages the fandom to be more divided than it already is.


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