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So do I but it is true the AK family looks a bit on the ugly.

Has anyone mentioned yet that the XM 8 melted once?

Yes.

Oh, I thought it melted 8 times, hence the name. XM-8 "Xtremely Melty-8"

^ It's "X-tremely Melty 8 shooter". You'll only get 8 rounds before it melts or suffers some other malfunction.

Didn't the G36 have melting issues as well? I wonder how long HK kit can be placed in the open here in Tropical Malaysia before it melts...

Well, it depends on who you believe about the G36. The Bundeswehr, the German government who paid H und K oodles of money for rifles that pretty few other nations will touch for combat use but tons of police departments across the planet will buy because H und K (see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_%26_Koch_G36 ),

or the journalists who broke the story.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2012/04/26/hk-g36-useless-at-200m-when-hot/

http://wethearmed.com/rifles/hk-g36-troubles/

As for a cause, you could try this quote from hkpro.com, who are pretty much the H und K corporate website in fan form.

"to my knowledge the G36 is one of the very few (or the only) modern combat rifles with a steel trunnion housed/integrated in a polymer upper. Metal takes up the heat and transfers it into the polymer. Hot metal and polymer doesn't mix. "

Original article here:

http://www.hkpro.com/forum/hk-long-gun-talk/202192-hk-g36-issue-solved-2.html

All in all, I would pass on that rifle, thanks.

The only post-WW 2 German rifle or weapon I'd ever consider getting is a G3. Even then I'd be searching for copies from other countries like Iran or Turkey or Saudi Arabia.

Of course, if I had to choose between a FAL, G3 and M-14 I'd take the M-14 and FAL over the G3 any day.

Not even a Walther?

Id take the Fal over both of those. Its got a synthetic stock already and has good weight for semi-auto fire.

And if you are really clever you put the recoil pad from a three inch magnum shotgun on the buttplate otherwise the solid plastic butt will kick the crap out of your shoulder.

No, the bruises build character!

edited 8th Aug '14 2:34:37 AM by Rosvo1

No thanks I like being able to feel my limbs normally.

I always knew Marines were clever.

I'd take the FAL as a general issue battle rifle. The M-14 I'd mod into an automatic sniper rifle of sorts (kinda like the Mk 14).

Since both weapons use the same mags I can carry both to cover different roles. The M-14 for long range sniping especially if I have a bipod, the FAL for general shooty.

Or for about the same effectiveness for a lot less weight I can just pack a SCAR-H with an ACOG or some shit.

Any way you cut it however, not a single HK firearm in consideration.

I was gonna suggest the MG3 as a GPMG type weapon. Then I remembered that was Rheinmetall.

How well does the vaunted SCAR-H handle in comparison to the classic battle rifles? Any reports? I'm leery of advertising (in which every gun is the Ultimate Gun Forever that will obsolete everything else ever).

The Rangers seem to love it. Better range and power than any M-16, lighter weight than classic M-14s.

I think it looks dumb

I kind of like the SCAR-H myself. It is nice that is lighter then our other 7.62mm battle rifle but they are still stuck with those 20 round mags.

• The Chinese TMJ-3 Multipurpose Integrated Weapon Sight

It looks like a Trijcon, a Surefire and laser sight has a drunken hook up and this sight is the result.

What they need to do is move the whole contraption to the front of the gun.

And then just get one of those Long Malcom scopes for it.

That's mainly a problem because nobody has really built any others. The 30 round mags used on LSW versions of the FAL tended to be unreliable. (And 30 round ones on the L4 aka the Bren never fit right on anything else.)

There are 50 round C-Mags but you got some kind of mad-on against the things.

Of course if we ever get lighter weight ammo of the 7.62 NATO type maybe there should be a 40+ round casket mag made?

edited 8th Aug '14 8:55:35 PM by MajorTom

I get the impression that weight was the main reason they stuck to 20-round 7.62x51 mags, as well as the fact that battle rifles are rarely fired on automatic. I'm really looking forward to polymer cases and their effect on magazine size. And I'd have to wonder what a 50-round C-mag would do to the balance and handling of a weapon that's designed for 20 rounds—probably wouldn't affect some weapons while others get weird balance issues.

The reason to not want a C-mag is the painfully obvious notion I want a magazine that doesn't suffer frequent hard to clear jams, is significantly more expensive then most other mags, and requires a lot of maintenance to keep it working some of the time, which are all traits that are the bane of all drum magazines.

It has to do with how the ammo is pushed around and the fact that even very small amounts of dirt or debris can cause a jam up in one of those mags. Never mind frequent issues with ammo binding.

Even other modern drum magazines are prone to it because they still use the same general parts and principals. The Helical drums are just as bad with various spring issues because of how they work. This is why the Casket Mag has been gaining popularity as it is high capacity without the issues of a drum and reliability more comparable to a box mag.

If you want a long rate of uninterrupted sustained fire get something that fires belted ammo.

Clearly the solution is a belt-fed SCAR.