Why not? it's a better alternative than the Asuna Nap.
World's Cutest Direwolf
For all its faults, the Asuna Nap only fucks over Asuna and her circle of loved ones.
And even that isn't bad unto itself until the asspull that made the sacrifice mean nothing to begin with.
edited 29th Oct '14 7:14:05 PM by SkormSnow-Strider
You know, if not for the part where it's mentioned they are turned INTO NEGIS, until that point, it wasn't sounding bad at all, at least not for Mundus Magicus humans. Other than the capacity to live on Mundus Vetus or not, humans from both sides seem to have the same physical and magical potential, so it'd be pretty much the same thing as the canonical practice of giving MM refugees like Cocone bodies custom built to live on Earth.
It appears you missed the significance of the third paragraph...
I read it like it turns them into Negi lookalikes, but it doesn't grant them Negi's personality, powers or charm.
edited 29th Oct '14 7:47:10 PM by NapoleonDeCheese
Okay, this is a Don't Explain the Joke moment...
The summary is very vague, buthte conversion process is meant to turn them into 'real being'. The process is only colloquially known as negification, because he's the one promoting it. Hence the third paragraph, because they thought it would make them look like him.
Then it isn't really that different from the already long existing practice of giving them Mundus Vetus human bodies, is it?
Hardly the same than being forcibly turned into a pony and having your personality rewritten (although, to be fair, non human races would still suffer from a case equivalent to the first part of this equation).
edited 29th Oct '14 7:52:42 PM by NapoleonDeCheese
himitsu keisatsu
That practice isn't reliable nor is it widely known. So far, we know of two people who've received such bodies, who are Cocone and Jack Rakan, and the latter might have just waltzed right into the building housing the project's headquarters and demanded his body.
himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
For all we know, Rakan doesn't have a body that can survive on this side, he just comes over here because he's Jacobus Fucking Rakan and he does what he wants.
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Cocone belonged to a program. It's unlikely she was the sole one, or even part of a very scarce number (especially considering she was a child— nothing ever implies she might be Older Than They Look—, and odds are they'd extensively try it on adults before resorting to children).
Actually, Rakan's dialogue with Setsuna while Negi and Asuna fought Eva outright stated he was in an artificial body then.
More or less. I dont think those enrolled in the program are that numerous to begin with, but they seem to able construct bodies/whatever in a reasonable and consistent amount of time.
The Lifemaker seems to be able to create beings that can travel between the worlds with no limitations as well, and didnt include that functionality for the rest for whatever reason.
edited 30th Oct '14 8:40:04 AM by SkormSnow-Strider
himitsu keisatsu
I'd assume that it never thought it'd be necessary with the first batch of inhabitants and only later became aware the world was going to collapse. Given that it didn't try to destroy the world until it was a last ditch effort thing, I'd assume that the Lifemaker only learned recently that the world is crashing.
himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
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I have slightly updated chp1 of Classroom Crusaders, preparing to finally work on the second chapter.
Incidentally, anyone recall how Misa and Chisame compare academically? I don't have any of the Negima volumes on hand to check it myself.
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Misa's a little ahead of the 500th place out of 737 and Chisame's a little ahead of her. Both of them are in the lower-achieving half of 3-A's main pack.
edited 30th Oct '14 3:22:00 PM by rikalous
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I did recall that Chisame's grades averaged in the upper 70's, (or so I thought) but I couldn't for the life of me recall where the heck Misa stood.
"EEEEK!!! CATS!!" "Setsuna? Chill out."
Chisame? A "C" student? I refuse to believe that!
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Need an opinion or several. Rough chapter for Joker in the Deck.
I think I need more, but I am fine with this. Will likely change the chapter title.
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The Things Teachers Do.
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Great Red explained everything that he knew of this universe to me. From the Dimensional Gap that was his home to general details of Angels, Fallen Angels, Devils, and the Great War before finishing up with a short lecture about Dragons. Earth was still Earth, but there were significant differences. Even the nature of Magic was different here.
It is a good thing that I have an eidetic memory. Otherwise, I would have been overwhelmed by this much information. Although he surprised me with a question of his own as I sorted my thoughts.
“Would you do this world a favor?”
I glanced up at him, “What sort of favor?”
“I mentioned two annoying dragons before we fought. They will be returning to the world soon. It would be a good thing if those two did not fight each other. The world would suffer greatly if they did.”
“Well...”
“I know you wish to return home. This will keep you occupied until you find a way to do so.”
I chuckled, “I suppose I should return home, but I am not in any hurry to do so. I am reclusive enough that I doubt that anyone will miss me for some time.” I nodded to Great Red then, “But I will try. What do I need to look for?”
Before he could explain what I needed to know, a voice came from inside my jacket, “But I want to see a fight!”
I sighed and opened my coat. “Not now Zero,” I said.
“Blood makes the grass grow! Kill! Kill! Kill!” came the reply from Chachazero as she looked up at me.
“In case you haven't noticed, there is no grass here in the Dimensional Gap.”
“So spill some blood so there will be grass to grow,” Chachazero said to him.
“What a vicious creature,” Great Red said as he tried to peer at the doll hidden in my jacket. “Why do you have such a thing?”
“She served my master for centuries before she was given to me. I am currently trying to reform her,” I said as I covered her up again. I had brought her along in case something had happened to me when I tried the spell. Perhaps not the best of ideas, but my logic was that if something could hurt me, it would likely not hurt Zero. I doubted her ability to go and find help for me if I was indeed incapacitated, but I didn't have any other alternatives in the matter.
I patted my jacket where I knew Zero's head was before resuming, “When my master created her, she was becoming the most feared mage of my worlds. She fought in many battles with Chachazero here, and as such Zero grew to enjoy bloodshed. Even after my master stopped fighting, the bloodlust within Zero remained. I've spent considerable time trying to reform her, but I have not given up.”
Great Red stared at me for a moment before asking, “Worlds?”
“Humanity has started to colonize the solar system. Mars has a thriving colony on it, and there are several bases in the asteroid belt.” I was a little proud of that, considering that it had been one of my greater accomplishments in the mundane world. It was one of the few things I could be openly proud of anyway. Everything else I had to keep secret for so long that few outside the magical community knew of them.
Great Red seemed to accept what I said easily enough. He asked, “You said she served your master for centuries. How long have you spent trying to reform her?”
A small chuckle escaped my lips before I answered, “Four centuries so far. Give or take a decade.”
“And how long are you prepared to keep reforming her?”
“As long as it takes.”
Great Red chuckled. “I see. You are committed to your goals. But how are you prepared to deal with others interfering with your goals?” he asked.
“I prepare as I need to,” I replied easily. I did not see the need to tell him of how many times that others, either through malice or ignorance, had tried to keep me from my goals. There was no point in telling him all of the occasions that my dreams came close to dying. Even some of those I had fought tooth and nail that I thought I had swayed to my cause turned on both me and my dreams. Evangeline had left Mahora to live a quiet life before returning, with my grandson no less, to lead an organization of immortals. I don't even want to think about what Fate did, even though I could not bring myself to hate him. I gazed at Great Red's eyes and resumed speaking, “I accept that I may well have to fight for what I want, but I also have said that I am not eager to fight. I prefer Diplomacy over Force any day.”
“So you did say. Yet you have proven you can fight if you must. Fine then.”
After explaining what I needed to know, Great Red nudged me out of the Gap so that I could start working on returning to my world, as well as what he had asked of me. It was going to be difficult, but I had the time since I was immortal myself.
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It took me two weeks to acquire proper identification papers from London. Mostly because of the bureaucratic runaround, although trying to get one form of identification without having any other form of identification was a nuisance by itself that I wish never to repeat. I had to lie entirely too many times by stating that all of my papers and passport had been stolen. It was another month to acquire a diploma from Oxford. Much less lying was involved there, but there was entirely too many tests to prove that I could be a teacher. Again, mostly because of the bureaucratic runaround.
Two weeks after I had diploma in hand I found a small manufacturing business that could produce something to profit both them and myself. I needed some form of income to purchase what I needed. I might well have been able to afford golden toilet seats encrusted with diamonds in my universe, but I did not need that there or here. I have never been an extravagant person, so my spending needs were less than average. Oddly enough, I didn't really need to eat much, but it would be something related to food that would help keep me from starving.
It was being marketed as “a new container for a new millennium.” I understood the chemistry needed to make the containers, but I knew the process itself was time-consuming and required specialized equipment to make containers that would help keep food fresh for much longer than normal.
Having secured a source of income, I set to work establishing myself in this world. I needed almost six months to arrange matters so that I could be prepared for any unpleasant surprises.
A modest home, built to withstand tornados and typhoons, then reinforced with magic to withstand a siege. Emergency supplies for several people for several weeks. Redundant systems for septic and water. An escape tunnel for when everything failed. The construction crew that built most everything thought I was insane until they saw how easily I paid for their materials lists and their labors. After that, they merely thought I was eccentric.
Three days after the house was finished, I was in the office of the headmaster of Kuoh Academy being interviewed for the position of teacher. Great Red had suggested that I join the staff here at the Academy, as there was a concentration of devils there. He believed that if anything bad was going to happen, it would start near the school.
Over the course of my long life I was a teacher many times. I had taught subjects ranging from English to Complex Magical Theory, to students in middle school up to university level. Each time, the students under my care came to respect both me and each other. It was an accomplishment that few teachers achieve, one that I was proud of.
Once I was officially a teacher at Kuoh Academy, I was an instant hit among the students. Even though my appearance suggested that I was barely older than them, they saw fit to tell all their problems to me. Since I took all my teacher positions very seriously, I became an unofficial guidance councilor and tried to solve as many problems as I could. A habit that I kept from my Mahora days. It was apparently the wrong thing to do as my office quickly became crowded with students. Unfortunately for me, the administration noticed that quickly and decided to not only encourage me to become an official guidance councilor, with pay to match, but I was also given some of the tougher cases that had the regular councilors pulling their hair out.
Which is how I met Hyodo Issei.
edited 30th Oct '14 5:53:46 PM by UberNimrod
Madman with a box? I'm a madman with a semi, a pretzel bender and a Heart of Gold!
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Unbelievable, but true IIRC. Chalk it up to her give-a-damn being busted all to hell.
Also, that snippet intrigues me. I should really watch Highschool DXD sometime.
edited 30th Oct '14 6:10:31 PM by EvaUnit01
himitsu keisatsu
Negi doesn't have an eidetic memory, as far as I remember. He has good recall and capacity, yeah, but he doesn't remember everything to full detail.
Why is Chachazero not commenting at all during the exchange? I'm sure she'd have several witticisms to quip, probably about strangling people with their own intestines or carving smiley faces into their backs. Or maybe she would comment about missing Chamo because at least if he was around there would be booze and panties. Or something like that.
Also, if four hundred years have gone by since Negi started the project, I believe humanity would be a LOT farther into expanding beyond the stars than just a colony here or there. Heck, I'd expect an at least partially terraformed Mars, if not a truly habitable Mars. Remember, humanity is progressing increasingly faster and these guys have the added benefit of magitek that makes them progress even faster than we do.
Mentioning that the events of UQ Holder happened might not be a very good idea. Mostly because UQ Holder goes out of its way to make a little less sense each chapter... unless you're going to use something from UQ Holder. And even then... you can just use those concepts while going out of your way to avoid UQ Holder itself.
As a last one... given that nothing can really hurt him, not permanently at least, I have to wonder why Negi is building some sort of super fortress. You know it's a mark of your average badfic to have the characters obtain 'cool' stuff that they're never going to use, we've seen it in both NCM and PKH (though PKH was less bad about it since stuff was introduced, used and discarded immediately rather than introduced and ignored from then on). Negi himself should know that he's invulnerable to basically everything, so he wouldn't have any real reason to build a 'fortress' of that sort.
Did I tell you that I only watched up to the end of the first season of Highschool DxD, so I won't be able to really throw in much from that side of the crossover.
@Eva
Far as I remember: It had an entertaining pair of Those Two Guys, a standard 'pervert' protagonist, a mostly unremarkable cast, decent art and a somewhat interesting plot once it actually kicks in, though it's nothing too unique, so to speak.
I'd say, give it a chance, if you've got the time, but it's not a Must Watch.
edited 30th Oct '14 7:15:29 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough
himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
Yup. And IIRC, she even went as far as to skip classes, so her grades might falter from actually not doing the work as opposed to not studying at all due to sheer apathy.
edited 30th Oct '14 8:22:49 PM by SkormSnow-Strider
Moe Game Console
I've been noticing Highschool DxD crossover popping up a lot lately. Is it that good of a series?
edited 30th Oct '14 10:18:07 PM by mega-dark
Hyped for Hyperdimension Neptunia V 2
No. The protagonist is basically Touta with a sex drive but the usual protagonist inability to actually get laid...
edited 30th Oct '14 11:29:47 PM by SCMof2814
At least with Touta that's because the love interest lacks genitalia. Or a sexual interest in Touta. And identifies as male. And really isn't much of a love interest at all.
Four hundred years after establishing the elevator, mankind should have colonized about 80% of the Orion Arm, discovered faster-than-light travel, and have a nascent and growing insurrection on their hands.
....No.