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Night The future of warfare in UC. from Jaburo Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
The future of warfare in UC.
#13051: Aug 30th 2015 at 3:11:11 PM

He decided to screw the rules.

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heliosKAISER The Struggler from Shadow Moses Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Struggler
#13052: Aug 30th 2015 at 6:08:11 PM

grin[up]YES.

Gundam Build Fighter Try, was a massive let-down compared to GBF.

edited 30th Aug '15 6:17:08 PM by heliosKAISER

You gotta start somewhere.
dood9780 Half-Demon Dude In A Bizarre World from The Vortex World Since: Mar, 2014
Half-Demon Dude In A Bizarre World
#13053: Aug 30th 2015 at 8:23:37 PM

Oh I almost forgot to tell Something Really interesting,

In 1992 a guy Named Yuichi Hasegawa created a 1-Volume Manga Called Mobile Suit Vs Giant God Of Legend: Gigantis' Counterattack in Wich the Remnants of Neo Zeon encounter a Mysterious Mobile Suit Called Gigantis ¡Wich is Revealed is actually none other than Ideon Itself! and for whatever Reason in this Story Judau happens to be the Reincarnation of Cosmo Yuki the Main Protagonist of Ideon

edited 30th Aug '15 8:28:31 PM by dood9780

"Death's vastness holds no peace. I come at the end of the long road—neither human, nor devil... All bends to my will." -Demifiend.
Night The future of warfare in UC. from Jaburo Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
The future of warfare in UC.
#13054: Aug 30th 2015 at 9:42:51 PM

That reminds me of a discussion regarding Build Fighters earlier in this thread and Ideon Gunpla.

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EvaUnit01 Fandom Heretic Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Fandom Heretic
#13055: Aug 30th 2015 at 9:58:57 PM

[up][up]I actually tried reading that, but what I found wasn't scanlated.

Some of the pictures were still epic, though. Ideon grabbed a Big Zam by the leg and used it as a bludgeon against the little Mobile Suits surrounding it.

dood9780 Half-Demon Dude In A Bizarre World from The Vortex World Since: Mar, 2014
Half-Demon Dude In A Bizarre World
#13056: Aug 30th 2015 at 10:02:20 PM

[up][up] ¿A Ideon Gunpla? that Reminds me of another thing i Imagined,

a hypothetical Build Fighters Sequel with Figures from not only Gundam but also from Other Mecha Series created by Sunrise, a Super Gunpla Wars as i would Call it

[up] ¡That sounds really Awesome!

edited 30th Aug '15 10:09:24 PM by dood9780

"Death's vastness holds no peace. I come at the end of the long road—neither human, nor devil... All bends to my will." -Demifiend.
Iaculus Pronounced YAK-you-luss from England Since: May, 2010
Pronounced YAK-you-luss
#13057: Aug 31st 2015 at 12:30:18 PM

Judau is the reincarnation of Cosmo? And gets roped into exterminating humanity on behalf of an insane Eldritch Abomination again? Jesus, Gundam, let the poor kid have his happy ending.

What's precedent ever done for us?
dood9780 Half-Demon Dude In A Bizarre World from The Vortex World Since: Mar, 2014
Half-Demon Dude In A Bizarre World
#13058: Aug 31st 2015 at 1:14:18 PM

[up] Well as far as i Know that Manga is Non-Canon.

"Death's vastness holds no peace. I come at the end of the long road—neither human, nor devil... All bends to my will." -Demifiend.
EvaUnit01 Fandom Heretic Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Fandom Heretic
#13059: Aug 31st 2015 at 1:30:29 PM

Didn't you get the memo? All manga are "unofficial". That's part of why so many people are pissed about Crossbone not getting an anime.

dood9780 Half-Demon Dude In A Bizarre World from The Vortex World Since: Mar, 2014
Half-Demon Dude In A Bizarre World
#13060: Aug 31st 2015 at 1:35:25 PM

[up] ¿Wait What? Wait a moment (.......) Oh Sunrise and its Strange policy of 'Manga-Non Canon' i Happily accept most Side-Story Manga, Novel, Or whatever...

Unless is something Ridiculously Depressing like Gundam Hathaway's Flash.

edited 31st Aug '15 1:39:25 PM by dood9780

"Death's vastness holds no peace. I come at the end of the long road—neither human, nor devil... All bends to my will." -Demifiend.
NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#13061: Aug 31st 2015 at 1:37:57 PM

Sorry but Things like Headcanon's and Fanon Discontinuity are not really my Thing,
I Am not really into Sunrise's Policy of 'Manga-Non Canon' i Happily accept most Side-Story Manga, Novel, Or whatever...

Unless is something Ridiculously Depressing like Gundam Hathaway's Flash.

I can't be the only one who found this hilarious.

Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.
dood9780 Half-Demon Dude In A Bizarre World from The Vortex World Since: Mar, 2014
Half-Demon Dude In A Bizarre World
#13062: Aug 31st 2015 at 1:40:28 PM

[up]... Okay i admit My Hypocrisy i am into Fanon discontinuity Sometimes

edited 31st Aug '15 1:42:51 PM by dood9780

"Death's vastness holds no peace. I come at the end of the long road—neither human, nor devil... All bends to my will." -Demifiend.
KazuyaProta Shin Megami Tensei IV from A Industrial Farm Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
dood9780 Half-Demon Dude In A Bizarre World from The Vortex World Since: Mar, 2014
Half-Demon Dude In A Bizarre World
#13064: Aug 31st 2015 at 1:51:00 PM

[up] ¡Ups! ¡Creo que use la Palabra Equivocada!

edited 31st Aug '15 1:52:10 PM by dood9780

"Death's vastness holds no peace. I come at the end of the long road—neither human, nor devil... All bends to my will." -Demifiend.
NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#13065: Aug 31st 2015 at 6:41:25 PM

So, I learned something new today. Remember Angelo Sauper from Gundam Unicorn, Full Frontal's chief minion and head worshiper? They don't really go into it in the OVA, but apparently in the light novel, his backstory is that his father was murdered by Federation soldiers and his mother was raped half to death by same. They were taken in by a friend of his father's, but he molested both Angelo and his mother. His mother eventually committed suicide, at which point Angelo is kicked out onto the streets and forced to prostitute himself to survive. The reason he's so blindly loyal to Full Frontal is because he's the one who found Angelo and got him out of that situation. In the novel, Banagher learns all of this during a newtype flash, at which point Angelo promptly commits suicide out of shame.

Holy mother of god, grimdark much? I mean, why have one character whose backstory is "forced to be a child prostitute" when you can have two? With a dash of "life ruined by Federation soldiers" like Zinnerman for good measure (never mind that that's canonically impossible according to basically every other source in the franchise).

Jesus fucking Christ, I hate Unicorn.

edited 31st Aug '15 6:42:21 PM by NativeJovian

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DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#13066: Aug 31st 2015 at 7:17:39 PM

While I didn't know Angelo's backstory in such detail, I did know he was sexually abused. So this isn't too surprising to me.

Then again, Unicorn is hardly alone in this kind of story development. Or have you forgotten Lalah Sune?

edited 31st Aug '15 7:22:20 PM by DarkHunter

NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#13067: Aug 31st 2015 at 8:13:37 PM

Lalah was one character across four full-length TV series and two movies, and she was quite well adjusted despite her past. I'm not saying that Rape as Backstory is necessarily an inherently terrible thing. But two characters both independently having the same grimderp backstory in one OVA? I call shenanigans on that.

And that's not even mentioning the horrific abuse of canon that is Zinnerman and Angelo's backstories. Both had their families killed by occupying EFF soldiers while living in Side 3. In no other work is it suggested that Side 3 was ever occupied by the EFF. In MSG, the war ends after the Battle of A Baoa Qu and the Federation never invades Side 3. It's actually a plot point that Side 3 retains its independence post-OYW — in Zeta the Titans bully the Republic of Zeon into helping them fight the AEUG, and in ZZ the Federation tries to buy Haman off by offering her Side 3 (which they didn't really care about because it didn't belong to them anyway).

The whole thing just reeks of lazy writing pushing the "Rape as Backstory" button for cheap emotional punch in lieu of any actual character development plus the blatant Retcon to make the Federation less sympathetic.

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EndlessSea LEGENDARY GALE from oh no you don't Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
LEGENDARY GALE
#13068: Sep 1st 2015 at 1:26:21 AM

Well, it is the novels that you're talking about. The anime toned that shit down for a reason.

but HOW?
Night The future of warfare in UC. from Jaburo Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
The future of warfare in UC.
#13069: Sep 1st 2015 at 1:36:14 AM

This came up on another forum I visit, where we were discussing our ideal game that doesn't yet exist.

Someone said "Wargame: The One Year War", playing off Eugen Systems' Wargame series of recent RTS (European Escalation, AirLand Battle, and Red Dragon).

So I thought I'd poll this thread. The next Gundam game is yours. An English release is assured. You can contract anyone you feel like to make it and use any system you want. What's it going to be?

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HallowHawk Since: Feb, 2013
#13070: Sep 1st 2015 at 6:09:04 AM

[up][up][up] In regards to what happened to Side 3 post-One Year War, if you're going to allow Side 3 to have a defense militia with not much on weapons, why not have some EF contingents stay in Side 3 in order to train soldiers? I mean, wasn't that why during the Cold War, US and British troops were stationed in West Germany, and are still stationed in unified Germany to this day?

edited 1st Sep '15 6:09:15 AM by HallowHawk

EchoingSilence Since: Jun, 2013
#13071: Sep 1st 2015 at 6:13:19 AM

I'm not sure what I'd do for a Gundam game. Other than Gundam Breaker English Release.

Maybe a full online MMO set around building your own mobile suit and fighting with it or on the ground, but with all suits of all series.

amitakartok Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
#13072: Sep 1st 2015 at 6:35:49 AM

[up][up][up]A strategy game, and I'd try to hire the old dev team of Company of Heroes.

As a matter of fact, I want to try my hand at writing a Gundam-themed top-down turn-based strategy game/wargame. I have the programming knowledge to do it and actually started writing the game engine in Java, but I lack graphical resources (ie. icons).

I would try an RTS, but I found out the hard way how resource-intensive Java is when rendering sprites moving around in real time. Granted, that was software rendering.

edited 1st Sep '15 6:43:18 AM by amitakartok

dood9780 Half-Demon Dude In A Bizarre World from The Vortex World Since: Mar, 2014
Half-Demon Dude In A Bizarre World
#13073: Sep 1st 2015 at 9:47:09 AM

Speaking of Gundam Videogames i made Some Research about a Sega Saturn Game Called, Gundam Side Story: The Blue Destiny

in This game the player takes control of a Nameless Federation Soldier (Wich is named Yuu Kajima in Some Adaptations) and he has to Pilot a Strange Blue GM called Blue Destiny Unit 1 (Wich is not really a GM But a Gundam Ground Type with the Head of a GM) and at a Certain moment this Game Did Something i would not see Coming from the UC (Well At that time)

The Blue Destiny Unit 1 Goes Berserk (Red Eyes included) because it... actually has a Soul Sealed in it

"Death's vastness holds no peace. I come at the end of the long road—neither human, nor devil... All bends to my will." -Demifiend.
EvaUnit01 Fandom Heretic Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Fandom Heretic
#13074: Sep 1st 2015 at 11:08:29 AM

re:Gundam game: I want a huge-ass action RPG that plays like Metal Gear Rising, but also has multiple storylines and lets you go completely Off the Rails at a couple of key story points.

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#13075: Sep 1st 2015 at 11:54:20 AM

Original storylines haven't really faired too well for Gundam games. Quite a few disasters like MS Saga.


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