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Bur Chaotic Neutral from Flyover Country Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Not war
#14576: Oct 7th 2015 at 5:33:43 PM

Since they're apparently giving the option, I'm gonna just have to do a "kill everyone" run.

i. hear. a. sound.
HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#14577: Oct 7th 2015 at 5:35:29 PM

Isn't that just a Neutral ending, though?

dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#14578: Oct 7th 2015 at 5:45:20 PM

[up]Nah, the "Kill Everyone" is the Whites' ending. Along with a helping of "I can't believe I let a bunch of emo morons talk me into this" or "I'm only doing this to get that little yellow dot on my save file and get to New Game+ early."

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#14579: Oct 7th 2015 at 5:46:10 PM

No, that's an Early Bad Ending; I think they were talking about an Omnicidal Neutral ending.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#14580: Oct 7th 2015 at 5:47:16 PM

That is the White ending. I'm guessing the endings in this game will be:

  • Nihilism/Bad ending
  • Law
  • Chaos
  • Neutral
  • "Bad" Neutral/Old Gods

dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#14581: Oct 7th 2015 at 5:49:05 PM

[up][up]Still counts as a "Kill them all" ending. Since, you know, everyone's dead because of you. Unless some of them managed to survive, then it's a "Tried to kill everyone but epically failed" ending.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#14582: Oct 7th 2015 at 5:50:17 PM

I wonder if Krishna will have a demon form, and if it'll be recruitable?

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#14583: Oct 7th 2015 at 6:17:46 PM

Wow. I really got to do more on Vanilla SMTIV now.

I've still only done the White ending.

One Strip! One Strip!
OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#14584: Oct 7th 2015 at 6:33:24 PM

There's no Deicide option for Walters baby and Protagonist.

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.
KazuyaProta Shin Megami Tensei IV from A Industrial Farm Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Shin Megami Tensei IV
#14585: Oct 7th 2015 at 6:59:42 PM

For some reason the SMTIV: Final give a feel of Nocturne 2.

And look like we still gonna have crappy Law endings.

Watch me destroying my country
OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#14586: Oct 7th 2015 at 7:21:22 PM

Apparently Medusa and Mermaid are both members of the Polytheistic faction.

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.
HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#14587: Oct 7th 2015 at 7:26:48 PM

I wonder if all the new demons will get a Doi redesign? What about mooks like Centaur and Napaea?

edited 7th Oct '15 7:26:53 PM by HamburgerTime

Watashiwa Since: Dec, 2009
Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#14589: Oct 7th 2015 at 9:10:15 PM

Napea was fine, but I dunno what the hell was up with IV's centaur design. There's being creative with the concept and then there's whatever the fuck that modern art sculpture was.

I sure said that!
KazuyaProta Shin Megami Tensei IV from A Industrial Farm Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Shin Megami Tensei IV
#14590: Oct 8th 2015 at 8:09:33 AM

For some reason the SMTIV: Final give a feel of Nocturne 2.

And look like we still gonna have crappy Law endings. If Lucifer is in the thread and YHWH too....crap.

Watch me destroying my country
dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#14591: Oct 8th 2015 at 8:29:14 AM

Seeing how there's a polytheistic faction, there's one particular demon I really want to see: Echidna. I think the only main series game she appeared in was the first one, and considering how she was the one that gives the first game's main character information about how YHVH began his persecution of the old gods, it seems fitting that she should be present in the new three-way war.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#14592: Oct 8th 2015 at 10:30:08 AM

Krishna's an interesting choice to lead the "forgotten old gods" faction, considering Hinduism's the largest non-Abrahamic religion by far and has close to a billion adherents.

edited 8th Oct '15 10:30:15 AM by HamburgerTime

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#14593: Oct 8th 2015 at 7:53:09 PM

All the Grigori are now toast. Only one dungeon left!

dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#14594: Oct 9th 2015 at 8:42:49 AM

For those who want to see what Merkabah and Lucifer look like redesigned, here are some scans.

Also, according to the first scan, Krishna's going to be voiced by Kenjiro Tsuda. So basically we have Seto Kaiba leading an army of gods against God and Lucifer.

Tarsen Since: Dec, 2009
#14595: Oct 9th 2015 at 9:08:49 AM

medusa looks massively improved.

Watashiwa Since: Dec, 2009
#14596: Oct 9th 2015 at 10:00:49 AM

Everyone looks better. This is shaping up to be what 4 should have been from the start, and I loved 4.

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#14597: Oct 9th 2015 at 10:18:51 AM

Man, if Doi ends up being the main SMT artist from here on, I'd not complain- He's got the same chops Kaneko does.

I still prefer previous versions of Lucifer, but I can actually buy his version of the IV design as him, at least!

I sure said that!
HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#14598: Oct 9th 2015 at 3:54:30 PM

I know some people have actually mistaken his art for Kaneko's. I'd imagine he's deliberately trying to stick close to his, as part of the "response to fan feedback" thing.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#14599: Oct 9th 2015 at 4:33:40 PM

Am I the only one that doesn't get why people are saying these new designs are so much better? I admit the black color scheme suits Lucifer but Medusa and Merkabah don't really look that different to me.

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#14600: Oct 9th 2015 at 4:41:18 PM

Because they are in a consistent artstyle instead of a mishmash of art.

Also Doi added touch ups that make the designs less grotesque. Merkabahs eyes have been changed, Medusas entire face and pose.

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.

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