^ I think I've found a flaw in your logic...
Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)@NLK: Mabinogi adds timing and planning to it's battle system.
Cityof Heroes has a focus on positioning, good skill chains (there is no 'standard attack' that's always available. Your skills are the entirety of your ability to do things), and effective use of buffs, debuffs, hard, and soft controls.
Final Fantasy XIV has an active time battle system where each attack takes a chunk out of a bar that rapidly fills up, which leaves the option to attack rapidly but drain the bar until you have to wait to attack further, or attack slower but keep the bar up so you can keep attacking consistently.
Maple Story and La Tale are real-time sidescroller MMORP Gs.
Dragonica is a beat-'em-up MMORPG with a combo system.
Ace Online is a flight-sim MMORPG.
Granado Espada gives you control of three characters at a time. It also allows the player to go AFK and still level up.
City Of Heroes is also easy as pie, compared to other MMO games, and that's why we love it. I can and have played it drunk, thoroughly enjoyed myself and still contributed well to the team. (then again, Illusion controllers are easy mode. Then again again, it's probably easier to name the combinations that aren't easy mode)
Personally, I thought the MMORPG Butt-Monkey was Evony. Or maybe Final Fintasy XI. I think most people aren't even aware that Runescape even is a MMO.
edited 14th Sep '10 8:07:27 PM by SabreJustice
^Empathy/Elec.
Also, a Spines/Dark self-sapper with every toggle power possible. No endurance slotting.
edited 14th Sep '10 8:23:09 PM by Miijhal
Mmm, I don't know about the laughing stock bit, but I can tell you about my opinions on Rune Scape.
The graphics are not-too-awful but beside things like World Of Warcraft they pale significantly. The quests are freakin' awesome, and when I trialed World Of Warcraft I remember bitching all over the place about the quests being like Slayer tasks, and incredibly short ones to boot.
But the skilling, the never-ending grind to get my levels up to a point where I can do the latest quest before I get spoiled all to heck... ehhh.
FIREMAKING. That is everything wrong with Rune Scape. it's boring, it's repetitive, it's stupid, you have to stay on the lever of your virtual Skinner Box and press at just the right rhythm to maximize your speed...
Dungeoneering isn't too bad, though. I used to hate it, but then I decided to do a medium sized solo dungeon and it was awesome.
The cash system makes me giggle when I compare it to World Of Warcraft and Lot RO: gold pieces? Really? But I've been playing for six years now so it's fun as all hell and the flagrant flailing about of gold is something I'm used to by now. (Besides, there's DRAGON METAL. TOO AWESOME!!!!!)
But the grinding... the grinding I could do less of. A lot less of.
Now to continue my desperate search for any way to train Firemaking that is a slightly different monotonous process than the usual lines of fire...
edited 7th Oct '10 10:44:31 AM by Lielac
The biggest problem that I had with Runescape was the community. I really admired the skill system, as I've never been much of a player that focuses on combat.
But the community... ugh...
Ecstasy is Sustained IntensityThe only problems I have with Runescape are:
1) The fact that you have to pay to do a lot of stuff. 2) It's in Java, and Java + 3D graphics tends to be a slow piece of crap even on the most high-end of computers. I get freaking Minecraft (another 3D java game) to run faster than this thing.
edited 7th Oct '10 12:02:03 PM by ColorPrinter
I've finally dumped playing this game for short bursts every four months or so. I have no idea why I was doing this.
Withdrawal symptoms, mayhap.
edited 7th Oct '10 2:23:22 PM by Litis
I rather like it, partly because of the affordability but mostly for nostalgic reasons. The quests (and the atmosphere in general) remind me of the old Sierra adventure games which I loved in my adolescence.
...Of all the topics to necro, it had to be this one.
Ah well, I'm sure that there can be at least some amusement out of continuing this conversation.
Still need More Dakka, and it's about time to start a real WAAAAAGH.My sincere apologies.
No, no, it's fine. It's just that pretty much all is said and done by now.
Still need More Dakka, and it's about time to start a real WAAAAAGH.Except this: I think that MMOs in general are the laughing stocks of video games.
People aren't as awful as the internet makes them out to be.FPS and console gamers seem to have a low opinion of MMO players.
That is in no way new or just focused on MMORPGs. Or FPS and console gamers...
The gaming community is one big bundle of superiority complexes and arbitrary hatred.
edited 10th Nov '10 10:54:49 AM by Miijhal
-The community sucks BALLS. I think the only other MMO that has a worse community would be World Of Warcraft. You'll constantly find elitists and low level beggars. Rampant scamming and phishing are an egregious problem. And you don't even want to go into the forums.
-The grinding is god awful repetitive. It probably has the worst leveling system in a game ever. I don't blame people for botting on it.
-The combat system is borked. Mages are totally overpowered, melee is a decent fall back, ranged absolutely sucks. Not to mention, at the rate they keep releasing new content, there's probably all kinds of new, super rare, insanely powerful weapons that make it impossible to catch up to older players.
My other signature is a Gundam.I used to play Runescape, but got easily bored because of the endless grinding and lacklustre graphics, plus it took up a LOT of my bandwidth. Now I just go on Adventure Quest Worlds and Dragon Fable and is happy there, and never looked back since then
edited 11th Nov '10 4:53:10 PM by sabrina_diamond
In an anime, I'll be the Tsundere Dark Magical Girl who likes purple MY own profile is actually HERE!This sub-forum has worse threads, especially with:
edited 12th Nov '10 11:58:13 PM by SpellBlade
Retro MUD baby. I'd be playing it right now if Terminal wasn't refusing to connect to the server.
"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.Totally not a necro at all.
So, I started playing the game after a year and a half, and it's strangely still quite fun.
Not that much fun without people to play with, though.
You can't even write racist abuse in excrement on somebody's car without the politically correct brigade jumping down your throat!I played from 2004 to 2008, at which point I became very active on Jagex's other product, FunOrb. Earlier this year I started playing again due to nostalgia, but eventually stopped for the same reason I did the first time, namely that grinding isn't much fun and takes no skill. Still, if anyone wants to play Barbarian Assault I'm up for it (preferably as defender).
IMO, its not as bad as they think, but not the best. also, gets WAY to grind heavy. it takes forever to level upafter a while, and incraesed exp from new things dosnt balance out much. i play once in a while, but havnt in months. i usually pop on for holiday events though.
I'm baaaaaaackHow many times does this topic have to be necroed?
"Delenda est." "Furthermore, Carthage must be destroyed." -Common Roman saying at the end of speeches.
^ Statement shows that we can meet such people even in online environments where access is free. Maybe we should all just keep off the Internet and everyone will be happy.