Jojo's Bizarre Adventure

Didn't Jotaro also encourage people to piss and shit on the Angelo stone? And in one of the bonus stories, didn't he go out of his way on his way home from school to mock Angelo?

Yeah, but Angelo is scum.

And 'getting away with a beating', when the beating is done by the likes of Star Platinum, basically amounts to death.

That was so cathartic...

edited 16th Apr '15 1:12:19 AM by TheHandle

Oh jeez, I forgot what happened to Terunosuke.

I kinda felt like Aya's death was pretty messed up. Forced to change a serial killer's appearance, then blown up right afterwards. Harsh, man.

Also, am I the only one who wanted to see more of Tonio Trussardi? I know he wasn't too much of a major character, but I liked him!

edited 16th Apr '15 10:21:32 AM by LimeKid

I think he showed up in Thus Spoke Rohan Kishibe Episode 6: Poaching Reef.

Reminder of this link for if you ever want to check them out.

edited 16th Apr '15 10:24:14 AM by LordofLore

Tonio does indeed show up in Poaching Reef. in fact, he's the one that leads Rohan to the reef in question.

one thing i like about Thus Spoke Rohan Kishibe is how the weirdness Rohan is exposed to is hardly ever Stand-related.

You mean that this ISN'T the work of an enemy Stand?!

pretty much. there are ghosts, evil paintings and killer oysters, though.

edited 16th Apr '15 10:59:52 AM by crimsonstorm15

I read that as Punching Beef.

Well, I just got done reading the fight with Grateful Dead and Beach Boy... and damn... It is hard to put into words just how blown away I've been by part 5's ability to take some seemingly lame premises and keep me glued to the screen, completely mesmerized by how they play out.

Prior to reading the series properly, I looked up a lot of spoilers. I knew how a lot of stands worked, and in all honesty, my expectations for the past couple of fights were low. To add to this skepticism, I felt the first real enemy of Vento Aureo, Soft Machine, was pretty stupid.

Then I get into Narancia vs. Formaggio. OK, so, one can control a toy airplane with real weapons... already been done by JJBA in various ways. One can make things shrink by cutting them. Interesting, but kind of arbitrary. Unlike a lot of the other parts, however, the mere matchup of abilities was not the main attraction. Instead, I found that to be Narancia's unshakable loyalty to his unit, and Formaggio's anger towards the Boss. Partially thanks to that, there was a real clash-of-wills desperation to the whole affair, from the rat-escape, to the bottle peril, to the fiery conclusion. The kind of feeling that all previous parts seemed to reserve, for the most part, for their final battles.

I didn't feel the same way about Illuso. The sense of desperation was kind of there when he sacrificed his hand and tried to get away, just not to the same level. To be fair, that was Giorno and Abbacchio's time to shine, and it was awesome in its own way. Still a lot better than I thought it would be by shamefully reading spoilers.

Then came Prosciutto and Pesci. By this point my skepticism was still strong; I was just kind of counting down from the supposed 9 assassins aiming to kidnap Trish: Sorbet and Gelato make 7, Formaggio makes 6, Illuso 5... ready to strike off another two names as I saw Mista exit the turtle to take down the stand with the convenient-cold-weakness and the lame fishhook guy. But my interest was piqued when "big brother" aged Mista and coldly gunned him down. For a second or two, I even thought Araki would actually let it stick. Had to re-check Sex Pistols' durability stat just to make sure his survival wasn't B.S. (it was A-rank), but once I got that out of the way, I really dug his warning the team via Sex Pistols, as well as Bruno's arrival into the battle. All the same, once Sticky Fingers entered the fight, I considered it to be almost over.

But to my shock and awe, Prosciutto just would not die. And when Pesci got his second-wind in... everything that happened afterward was thriller gold, even accounting for the inconsistencies in Grateful Dead's aging ability. The Villainous Friendship Prosciutto displayed for Pesci is strikingly uncommon among such relatively minor enemies, and the level of Heroic Resolve displayed by Pesci is almost unheard of for villainous characters. I don't think I've silently, guiltily cheered for a pair of criminals this much since Dog Day Afternoon, and since Dog Day Afternoon ranks in my top 10 films, that's a huge compliment. I stayed up an hour past when I wanted to go to bed just to see how it all played out, and now I'm staying up at least a half an hour more just to get this praise off my chest.

I would probably class this whole arc among my personal favorite fights in the series, and now I immediately want to read more. I've seen in this thread that people say Vento Aureo is where the series started to go bad... I'll admit, I can kind of see why. The mob plot here seems thrown-together compared to the rich, new world of stands from part 3, and the quirky modern-fantasy of Morioh. That, and I don't quite feel for Bruno, Narancia and Fugo like I did for the whole main crews from 1-4. But for me, when it's at it's best, V.A. contains the most consistent emotional oomph factor out of all of 'em so far.

For bonus points, Grateful Dead easily ranks among the coolest-looking stands in the series. Right up there with Echoes, Black Sabbath and Cream.

I just can't stop laughing at the Food Theme Naming...

Prosciutto...

Oh, the Italian dub is going to be fun. When it happens. In a decade or so.

IMO, Part 5 is the worst story-wise, but the best battle-wise.

I'll have to admit that the fight with Pesci and Proscuitto was one of the fights that I actually enjoyed over, and the one of the fights I actually remember well(considering I normally skim through, which is something I shouldn't do often). I was legitimately scared that Mista would have a premature death there.

Also, I just started reading Stone Ocean, and I've noticed it's much more... mature, compared to the rest of the chapters.

edited 17th Apr '15 5:08:36 AM by LimeKid

I'd agree with that. There are some really fantastic fights in that part. Just wait till Doctor gets to White Album.

Iggy stahp◊

Yeah, that's... that stuff calms down after the first few chapters.

"First Egypt... then the bitches."

Hahaha next enemy is D'Arby the Player. What kind of translation is that?

According to Google, it's been translated that way in some other mediums before. I do normally see D'arby the Gamer, though.

yeah, we'd use "Gamer" as well.

It's not technically inaccurate, but it probably shouldn't be translated that way given the additional connotations "player" has in english. God, now I'm imagining Terence tipping his head cloth thing and going "D'Lady".

edited 17th Apr '15 11:06:27 AM by Moth13

D'Arby the Player is a really bad name because both D'Arbys are players.

Next episode will have D'arby surrounded by female dogs, just like in Iggy's flashback.

Don't hate the Player, hate the Gamer.

[Exactly.]