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Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#9001: Aug 23rd 2014 at 2:25:13 PM

Basically, GER took away the effect of death. Whereas dying would normally kill a person, GER killed Diavolo and then reset it back to the moment before death.

It's supposed to mirror how King Crimson takes away cause.

Crinias from The Bleak Academy Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Mu
#9002: Aug 23rd 2014 at 2:55:07 PM

Pretty much. Diavolo reiterates throughout Vento Aureo that 'results' are all that matters, so the 'means' are irrelevant, and that's reflected in King Crimson. However, it is our actions and intentions which make up the world, so that's flawed reasoning: Means matter. This is expanded on in the chapter that Abbacchio dies.

Speaking of VA, it doesn't come up all that often, but it is in many ways similar to Stardust Crusaders - most stand battles have counterparts to those of Dio's minions. Just something I thought I should throw out there.

edited 23rd Aug '14 5:45:23 PM by Crinias

Comun Since: Jun, 2012
#9003: Aug 23rd 2014 at 3:13:10 PM

Araki did the Ice Bucket Chhallenge.

No fucks were given.

As for the GER discussion, if you read Medaka Box, think of GER as the same as Kumagawa's All-Fiction, except Giorno can also erase actions while Kumagawa is limited to things. Also, GER requires contact with the target. Giorno inflicted death to Diavolo and then erased the action of dying, cause Diavolo to repaetedly suffer death without dying. As for why each death is different from the others, that can be explained by "It just works".

Mrsunshinesprinkles Forever Gorgeous from Somewhere, crying Since: Jan, 2012
Forever Gorgeous
#9004: Aug 23rd 2014 at 4:58:09 PM

Oh yeah...IIRC, it also gives a contrast to GER; KC removes the cause of an effect. GER removes the effect of a cause.

I forget...Is all this explained in the text or it's kinda glanced over? Then again, I read those shit scans.

edited 23rd Aug '14 5:05:31 PM by Mrsunshinesprinkles

"Curry killed the pussy hoping that I could kill the hate in you" - Curry, D. "TABOO | TA13OO." TA13OO, PH, 2018
Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#9005: Aug 23rd 2014 at 5:08:40 PM

GER doesn't require contact. He undid all of Diavolo's actions while Diavolo was skipping through time, after all.

doctrainAUM White Hindu from New Jersey Since: Aug, 2010
White Hindu
#9006: Aug 23rd 2014 at 7:11:10 PM

It sorta reminds me of the Gae Bolg from Fate Stay Night. Once it's aimed at someone, it will pierce the target's heart. There's very little to be done to avoid this, as the effect has already been decided, the Gae Bolg just needs to alter reality a bit to form the cause.

"What's out there? What's waiting for me?"
wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#9007: Aug 23rd 2014 at 8:31:16 PM

God dammit, why is Araki so awesome? I hope he challenged Kubo.

I'm just now getting around to watching this week's episode of the anime. Did they just add a third named chicken to the two in the manga? I like it.

edited 23rd Aug '14 9:12:17 PM by wanderlustwarrior

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#9008: Aug 23rd 2014 at 9:52:07 PM

[up] If Kubo did, who would he challenge?

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#9009: Aug 24th 2014 at 5:18:26 AM

Some of his female characters, hopefully probably. And then they (or he) would challenge other people, like "his editor(s)", other mangaka, or people he knows.

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MightyKombat Since: Jan, 2001
#9010: Aug 24th 2014 at 6:52:26 AM

[up][up][up] I think it was still three chickens in the manga as well actually.

Comun Since: Jun, 2012
#9011: Aug 24th 2014 at 11:31:56 AM

And I think the three of them were named already.

crimsonstorm15 shine on from A parallel universe Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#9012: Aug 24th 2014 at 2:34:00 PM

i'm at Wekapipo and Magenta Magenta. everything's connected, huh?

and, in following with the translator's notes, i've given Magenta Magenta Mandark's voice. tongue

President Valentine's Stand has the most long-winded name i've seen in this manga. i can see why you guys abbreviate it. [lol]

edited 24th Aug '14 7:53:43 PM by crimsonstorm15

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Grahf Since: Jan, 2001
#9013: Aug 24th 2014 at 8:56:42 PM

Even he calls it D 4 C. Although it's still not the longest in the series. That probably goes to Boku no Rhythm wo Kiitekure which was Oyecomova unnamed Stand. Green, Green Grass of Home and Burning Down the House are also strong contenders.

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#9014: Aug 24th 2014 at 8:58:49 PM

Was Yagiyama's stand ever named? I think it might have been "I am a Rock, I am an Island" or something like that.

Grahf Since: Jan, 2001
#9015: Aug 24th 2014 at 9:14:06 PM

Officially it seems to be "I am a Rock"

deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#9016: Aug 24th 2014 at 11:29:57 PM

How the hell does Araki look so young. Is he a pillar man who unlocked his ultimate evolution?

Gilphon Since: Oct, 2009
#9017: Aug 24th 2014 at 11:59:01 PM

It's well established that he's a Ripple user.

deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#9018: Aug 25th 2014 at 12:09:22 AM

like araki's what 50 something? he looks like he is in his 20's or early 30's.

Elfive Since: May, 2009
#9019: Aug 25th 2014 at 2:29:47 AM

Jojo's Bizarre Adventure is 28. Araki looks younger than his own manga.

crimsonstorm15 shine on from A parallel universe Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
MightyKombat Since: Jan, 2001
#9021: Aug 25th 2014 at 6:37:02 AM

He's 50, he took the ice bucket challenge and won. He's either a Hamon user or has Ghiaccio's White Album.

Mrsunshinesprinkles Forever Gorgeous from Somewhere, crying Since: Jan, 2012
Forever Gorgeous
#9022: Aug 25th 2014 at 7:08:46 AM

crowner idea

what is araki

"Curry killed the pussy hoping that I could kill the hate in you" - Curry, D. "TABOO | TA13OO." TA13OO, PH, 2018
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kiukiuclk from 3.1415926535897932384626433832795028841971693 Since: Feb, 2013 Relationship Status: My TiMER is ticking
#9024: Aug 25th 2014 at 7:37:07 AM

[up] What did he look like when he started? Maybe he has Merlin's disease? ;)

edited 25th Aug '14 7:37:17 AM by kiukiuclk

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#9025: Aug 25th 2014 at 7:39:27 AM

[up][up]Thus explaining where the scars from his evil done to canines go.

edited 25th Aug '14 7:39:45 AM by wanderlustwarrior

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