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X2X You'll never see it coming. from the Darkness Beyond Time Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Staying up all night to get lucky
You'll never see it coming.
#79826: Oct 6th 2012 at 6:29:10 PM

(randomly resurfaces)

Top 5, eh? I'll have to think about this for a bit...

"Oh no, Sanji's Chronic Simprosis!" - Kou The Mad
Null ... from ... Since: Apr, 2009
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#79827: Oct 6th 2012 at 6:53:12 PM

For playable characters:

  • 1. Aqua
  • 2. Riku
  • 3. Terra
  • 4. Ventus
  • 5. Roxas

For (original) NP Cs

  • 1. Master Xehanort
  • 2. Braig
  • 3. Xion
  • 4. Kairi
  • 5. Organisation XIII Moogle

For non-original characters

  • 1. Mickey
  • 2. Joshua
  • 3. Jack
  • 4. Tron
  • 5. Maleficent

edited 6th Oct '12 6:55:21 PM by Null

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vanishingreality from Sinnoh Since: Aug, 2011
#79828: Oct 6th 2012 at 7:39:58 PM

That Moogle was so creepy and amazing. I can’t believe they didn’t give the moogle a chair.

1) Sora because clown shoes 2) Terra because suspenders 3) Donald because he’s the mage and straight man 4) Saix because he’s seriously the reason org 13 gets ANY work done 5)Anti Black Coat- has great fashion sense.

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#79829: Oct 6th 2012 at 7:48:32 PM

I'm amused that we got so interested in the Anti-Black-Coat when he showed up in those trailers. And then it turned out that he was just a glorified sleeping chamber for Sora and didn't have any lines to speak of.

edited 6th Oct '12 7:48:40 PM by Enlong

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Khfan429 Introspective, innit? from the depths of my rage Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Introspective, innit?
#79830: Oct 6th 2012 at 7:56:35 PM

[up]I don't know about everyone else, but I found him interesting because I thought Anti Black-Coat was possibly Vanitas (another character people got hyped about who only appeared in the one scene from the trailer, interestingly enough).

NOMUUUUUUUURAAAAAAAA!!! >:(
Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#79831: Oct 6th 2012 at 8:04:12 PM

So, here's a spoiler-ific question you guys: At the end of 3D, when Sora is sinking into the darkness, wouldn't Ventus' heart commanding his armor to appear on Sora count as a Big Damn Heroes moment? After all, that armor protects its wearer from the darkness and if that darkness was enough to completely corrupt the armor then it would have corrupted Sora as well. Even when I first say the scene, I got the impression that Ventus sacrificed his armor to save Sora from that darkness.

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#79832: Oct 6th 2012 at 8:10:50 PM

[up][up][up][up]It's a shame we never got a reveal of the Moogle's true name. I'll just have to keep calling him Xemnaiorict.

[up]I wouldn't think of it as a sacrifice, as such, but it definitely helped prevent the worst of the damage to Sora's heart. Without the armour, the cast may have been faced with a giant,anti-form nightmare Vanitas.

edited 6th Oct '12 8:12:57 PM by Null

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Khfan429 Introspective, innit? from the depths of my rage Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Introspective, innit?
#79833: Oct 6th 2012 at 8:23:57 PM

I have just realized that Master Xehanort has used the word "feckless" at least twice... which is about one time more than I would have ever expected any video game character (or anyone, really) to use that word.

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#79834: Oct 6th 2012 at 9:10:21 PM

[up][up] Still, should I add it to Big Damn Heroes on the trope page?

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X2X You'll never see it coming. from the Darkness Beyond Time Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Staying up all night to get lucky
You'll never see it coming.
#79835: Oct 6th 2012 at 9:29:56 PM

[up][up] You feckless simpleton. tongue

I figure a game set in a more medieval setting (real or fantasy) would probably be more likely to have the characters using more antiquated vocabulary. After all, Golbez throws around "folderol" in Dissidia and how many people use that word?

[up] I'm leaning towards no because it still didn't completely save Sora from the Xehanorts.

edited 6th Oct '12 9:31:22 PM by X2X

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Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#79836: Oct 6th 2012 at 9:32:38 PM

Sure kept Sora from being corrupted by the darkness of sleep, though.

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#79837: Oct 6th 2012 at 9:34:59 PM

[up][up]Though it's mostly just him and Cecil who do that. Kain to a lesser degree in the prequel.

I still want to see FFV characters at some point. They'd fit in easily, given that that one was the self-inflicted Affectionate Parody game.

edited 6th Oct '12 9:35:18 PM by Pulse

I sure said that!
Xiphoniii Cheeky son of a.... from Florida Since: Aug, 2009
Cheeky son of a....
#79838: Oct 6th 2012 at 9:49:00 PM

Out of curiosity, how many people here are keeping up with "Remember Kingdom Hearts" on Tumblr? Just trying to gauge how popular it is.

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X2X You'll never see it coming. from the Darkness Beyond Time Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Staying up all night to get lucky
You'll never see it coming.
#79839: Oct 6th 2012 at 9:55:57 PM

[up][up][up] True.

[up][up] Which is a bit weird considering that IV wasn't the only Medieval-styled ''FF' game.

[up] I was unaware of its existence.

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Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#79840: Oct 7th 2012 at 1:13:42 AM

Nightmare Ven Armor reminds me of the scene in BBS when Terra dons his armor to block Xehanort's darkness.

Funny that both efforts failed...to an extent.

SaintDeltora The Mistress from The Land Of Corruption and Debauchery Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
The Mistress
#79841: Oct 7th 2012 at 1:56:27 AM

talking about FF characters i would like to see... i am hoping for the ff12 crew to appear at some point.(especially Vaan and Penelo)

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#79842: Oct 7th 2012 at 2:15:20 AM

Which is a bit weird considering that IV wasn't the only Medieval-styled FF game.
It WAS, however, the only one to star a nobleman.

edited 7th Oct '12 2:15:51 AM by Pulse

I sure said that!
absolclaw from a church on a hill Since: Jan, 2001
#79843: Oct 7th 2012 at 2:28:10 AM

I'm pretty sure XII had a nobleman as the main villain.

Holy Grail, huh? Cool story, bro.
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#79844: Oct 7th 2012 at 6:00:30 AM

Part of me thinks that both the Anit Black Cloak Nightmare and the Armored Ventus/Sora Nightmare actually are Vanitas.

We know now that Vanitas, or at least the darkness in Ven's heart that used to be Vanitas as well as Vanitas's memories of his own life are in Ventus's heart, and by extension Sora's. That's the reason Nomura says Vanitas appears to Sora in Le Cite Des Cloches.

So the Anti Black Cloak is a Nightmare, and one of Sora's Nightmares at that. A Nightmare is a Dream Eater, and a Dream Eater is the form Darkness takes in the Realm Of Sleep/Sleeping Worlds. That's what happened with Riku after all. Vanitas is Darkness, so in the Sleeping Worlds, he would take the form of a Dream Eater. And because Anti Black Cloak was one of Sora's Nightmares, he was therefore some of the Darkness in Sora's heart, and by extension possibly Ventus's, and therefore, possibly at least partially made of Vanitas.

The Armored Ventus/Sora Nightmare seems obvious actually. Because it didn't actually protect Sora from the Darkness, and the Armor itself seemed to be Corrupted. Several of the techniques of the Armor are similar to techniques used by Vanitas, and if Ven's Armor was corrupted, then I would say Vanitas, the Darkness in Ven's heart was the most likely reason it got that way.

edited 7th Oct '12 6:03:05 AM by unnoun

Peridonyx Since: Jun, 2012
#79845: Oct 7th 2012 at 6:04:06 AM

I would like to see Aqua become the Anti-Villain-True Final Boss of Kingdom Hearts III. Just hear me out:

She finally gets fed up and decides to take matters into her own hands. So she steals the X-Blade from a battle-weakened Master Xehanort, gives him a Mind Rape-Vigilante Execution, and then attempts to create a universe free of darkness.

edited 7th Oct '12 9:50:51 AM by Peridonyx

Keyseeker Since: Jun, 2011
#79846: Oct 7th 2012 at 6:20:52 AM

@Xiph: I'm keeping up with it. I love their theories and translations!

Xiphoniii Cheeky son of a.... from Florida Since: Aug, 2009
Cheeky son of a....
#79847: Oct 7th 2012 at 7:04:20 AM

Kyseeker: Cool! I was just curious if anyone here knew of it, cause my best friend is one of the people running it, and wanted to know how popular it was. (Also totally stealth advertising it)

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#79848: Oct 7th 2012 at 7:51:05 AM

[up][up][up] I haven't actually played BBS but that sounds incredibly out-of-character from what I do know.

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Peridonyx Since: Jun, 2012
#79849: Oct 7th 2012 at 8:32:15 AM

[up]Out-of-character for BBS-Aqua (past)? Absolutely.

Out-of-character for KH 3-Aqua (future)? I dunno.

Null ... from ... Since: Apr, 2009
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#79850: Oct 7th 2012 at 8:53:56 AM

Aqua's personal timeline is compressed due to the nature of the Ro D – meaning that from her perspective, merely a year or so has passed. In addition, as seen in Blank Points, her personality is unchanged - despite understandable tiredness, she retains optimism and belief in her friends, and Sora.

In other words, Xionort would be more likely than Final Boss Aqua.

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