Troper Updates II, Part II

Oh. Zersk!

ZERSK.

Did you know?

The French Socialists; Spanish Socialists; the German Social Democrats; and British Labour, are considered to be their respective national left-wing parties. However, surveying their policy manifestos find them to be more towards the authoritarian-right?

Hopi: What, really? :o Talk about misleading names! :p

@ Zersk. Well, compared to their national right-wing parties (French Union pour movement populaire; Spanish People's Party; German Christian Democrats; British Conservatives), their policy manifestos are fairly left-ish. However, on a wider, political scale, they are more towards the centre-point, but still in the authoritarian-right sector.

Huh. :/ So like left-wing in the American Democrat sense?

As far as I understand they're more left than the American Democrats, but yes.

The Democrats aren't really all that left. Like at all.

Oh okay. :o

^ Exactly. :p

edited 8th Oct '12 1:43:43 PM by Zersk

Hrrrm. Be careful drawing comparisons, Zersk.

The Democrats still run on 18th century classical liberalism; they're just less likely to push that ideology.

European politics are running on mid-20th century social democratic ideas; ie. welfare spending, civil rights, etc.

(Canada runs on early-20th century social liberalism, which is why your Liberal and Conservative parties have been changing places [until the NDP became Official Opp])

The Democrats are more centre-right in non-American terms, in fact.

Hopi: Ohh, alright. :o

Complicated. :3

Democrats are just too left for Republicans.

So... Since Mario couldn't go left in Super Mario Bros...

Would that make him a Republican?

@ Zersk. Very.

Generally, the major left- and right-wing parties in Europe will have a social consensus. For example, in Britain, all three major parties support gay marriages, abortion, etc.

Where the parties differ, however, is their economic plans, and the social consequences of those plans. That is what creates a difference between the major European parties.

Also the Tories only really support Gay marriage because otherwise would probably be political suicide right now.

Social consequences? :o

Such false dichotomy. Today at school I saw a billboard that said "Vote November whenever" and had Obama and Romney facing each other.

I want to live to see the day when neither a Republican NOR a Democrat gets into that office!

@ Slendy. Indeed.

@ Zersk. e.g. The Conservative party support outsourcing public services to the private sector. The social consequences of this means that unemployment will increase in areas that rely heavily on public-sector employment.

Expect to wait a long time.

edited 8th Oct '12 1:53:25 PM by Inhopelessguy

Hopi: Oh okay. :o

Key: That would be nice, but it's probably not going to happen soon. >.>

Hopey!

15 min before college. I don't wanna!

You don't know that Zersk! One year, someone may let loose some horrible secret about one of the parties and they become discredited forever after.

Or aliens could invade and institute their own government, who knows.

NUUUU

-glomps Day-

@ Key: The day that would happen would be the day they release the entire Mother trilogy here in America, and the day I dye my hair blue.

You are leaving Day? Awww...

Hopey -is glomped and glomps back-

Slendy- Not yet, I still have some time.

Then I shall remain happy for now. Excellent.