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DragonGeyser The Chew Toy of Gaming from a computer, DUH. Since: Dec, 2010
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#2501: May 20th 2015 at 1:27:11 PM

There's no way in hell they're removing the dice game. They're explicitly going for minor tweaks, not stuff that would change the layout of entire levels.

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LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
PolarPhantom Since: Jun, 2012
#2503: May 23rd 2015 at 4:51:50 PM

WE DID IT!

WE'LL FINALLY FILL TRISH'S DARK SOUL WITH LIIIIIIIGHT

by beating Bloody Palace with her.

So, can any normal human be as badass as Lady and defy the physical laws of the universe? Cool.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#2504: May 23rd 2015 at 8:25:58 PM

I know it's probably not going to happen, but I'd like if they added a way for Dante and Trish to fight Credo and Dante without going through a gazillion floors of bloody palace. I'd do it like they did with the Jester fights in 3 Special Edition and have optional portals in the levels teleport you to their fights. (perhaps colored black to avoid issues with canon?)

StarOutlaw Time to roll the dice from Frontier Space Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
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#2505: May 23rd 2015 at 8:48:41 PM

[up]I think there was a mod for the PC version that allowed you to do that more easily. Someone might do that again.

Really, I wish these games had a more easily accessible Boss Rush mode available to all characters.

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Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
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#2506: May 24th 2015 at 8:03:28 AM

Bloody palace was bloody impossible. I never managed to get past Berial with Dante, for some reason.

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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#2507: May 24th 2015 at 12:43:44 PM

... Wait, PS 4? Isn't DMC4 a PS 3 game? Does this mean that players who haven't moved to the PS 4 platform yet can't access this expansion?

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DragonGeyser The Chew Toy of Gaming from a computer, DUH. Since: Dec, 2010
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#2508: May 24th 2015 at 1:05:04 PM

Special Editions of Devil May Cry games aren't exactly expansions, but you're right, as DMC4SE is only coming to PS4, Xbox One and PC. PS3 and 360 owners without an 8th-gen console will either have to get a new console or move to PC in order to play it. I don't think there's any sort of Old Save Bonus for having the old version, either.

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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#2509: May 24th 2015 at 4:27:59 PM

Well, good thing I haven't bought DMC4 on PS 3 yet. I've been waiting for ages for a major discount to come, and then got distracted by a lot of stuff that I forgot to check on the PS store regularly.

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PolarPhantom Since: Jun, 2012
#2510: May 24th 2015 at 6:11:24 PM

You know, I actually predicted Trish and Lady would be playable. I was only, like, 40% confident, but man oh man was I so happy to be right.

While I hope that Vergil, Nero, Trish and Lady will be Bloody Palace bosses, I doubt they'll go that far. Yeah, having them playable is just the extent I believe.

StarOutlaw Time to roll the dice from Frontier Space Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
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#2511: May 24th 2015 at 6:24:54 PM

I imagine programming them to be bosses takes a lot of work, which is why Dante wasn't one for Vergil in DMC 3 SE.

I'm actually a bit disappointed that Vergil's Dark Knight costume's Devil trigger doesn't turn him into Nero Angelo like in 3SE, even just as a costume. Having the Nero Angelo move set would be a bit of a downgrade.

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DragonGeyser The Chew Toy of Gaming from a computer, DUH. Since: Dec, 2010
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#2512: May 24th 2015 at 8:46:47 PM

I can't say I'm surprised that Nero Angelo isn't "Legendary Dark Knight" Vergil's DT. That would probably be seen as being too much of a drain on resources to make work with Vergil's moveset and size, similar to what happened with UMVC3 in regards to its Corrupt Vergil costume.

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StarOutlaw Time to roll the dice from Frontier Space Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
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#2513: May 24th 2015 at 10:04:29 PM

[up]Yea, but it was such a nice little bonus in 3SE. They wouldn't need to give him the move set, just the skin with a sheath for Yamato on his armor like his normal DT. They're pretty much doing it for the Sparta DT already. But it's a small nit pick.

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#2514: May 25th 2015 at 12:18:01 AM

So Trish is basically a mix of Dante, Vergil and Chun Li, on steroids. Boy do she and Vergil look awesome.

Also, going by Dante's video, it seems the DT got back its healing function from 3. Nice. His gameplay seems to be unchanged, but considering how insanely huge his moveset already is…

Wonder if they made any tweaks to Nero's gameplay, though.

If it comes out on PC, I might find a way to get it… are PC controllers comfortable enough?

A… A Japanese dub…? *__* (… the cutscene is a bit dull though)

edited 25th May '15 12:32:46 AM by Lyendith

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#2515: May 25th 2015 at 12:24:06 AM

[up] It is coming to PC (Steam, specifically) and PC controllers are just Xbox 360/One controllers, PS 4 controllers, Wii U Pro controllers, or special controller Valve is coming out with for Steam. Whatever works for you. Also, Dante's DT heals him in the regular edition of 4 as well.

edited 25th May '15 12:24:28 AM by Zelenal

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GilverDMC1 from Somewhere Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#2516: May 28th 2015 at 7:04:12 PM

So I was reading through Dante's page and this under "hidden depths" caught my eye.

Though his main persona is the same in each game, chronologically he matures quite a bit. Witness his change from thrill seeking (DMC 3) to guilt-ridden (DMC 1) to cool-headed (DMC 4).

How is he guilt-ridden?

edited 28th May '15 7:04:58 PM by GilverDMC1

StarOutlaw Time to roll the dice from Frontier Space Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
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#2517: May 29th 2015 at 1:59:08 AM

[up]He feels guilty over being unable to save his mom, or at least that's what I would assume. I don't remember if he acts that way in 1.

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#2519: May 29th 2015 at 11:51:09 AM

Um, yes, he does? In the underworld portion of the game.

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GilverDMC1 from Somewhere Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#2520: May 29th 2015 at 6:13:11 PM

Post the cutscene please.

PolarPhantom Since: Jun, 2012
#2521: May 29th 2015 at 6:41:53 PM

I also don't recall "guilt-ridden". More determined, I guess. A stronger sense of purpose than in 3 and 4, yes, but guilt ridden? Eh...

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
Vertigo_High Touch The Sky Since: May, 2010
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#2523: Jun 2nd 2015 at 5:55:16 PM

Capcom dropped the ball if they did not give Nero the body board move.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#2524: Jun 2nd 2015 at 6:19:52 PM

Pretty sure they're not making any changes to Dante or Nero at all.

Vertigo_High Touch The Sky Since: May, 2010
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#2525: Jun 2nd 2015 at 6:55:58 PM

Not sure why, Nero could use a few more moves.


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