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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#1426: Apr 18th 2010 at 8:54:43 AM

It was the latter; why would I ask about the former when the whole fanfic can be read in 15-20 minutes? The chapters aren't that long.

And if Haruna forced her to do it (I smell blackmail... XD), then I suppose Ayaka could "go easy" on her. In fact, I think I actually have their Pactio moment in my archives, and IIRC Chisame did not like having to kiss a 10-year-old kid anymore than said kid liked having to be kissed so suddenly by his student.

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing
#1427: Apr 18th 2010 at 10:15:58 AM

If I remember correctly, Chisame's reaction for the Pactio was basically "There's really no way to solve this without an artifact, is there? Crap, that means I have to kiss a ten year old. This sucks."

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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#1428: Apr 18th 2010 at 11:14:36 AM

And then she forcibly covers his eyes when he wakes up as she's moving in for the... uh, "kill" doesn't sound appropiate at all. Help, anyone?

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
ShayGuy Since: Jan, 2001
#1429: Apr 18th 2010 at 3:09:02 PM

What do you call such a number with an even amount of digits that can be divided into two identical halves?

Uh...(10^n+1)*x, where 10^(n-1)≤x<10^n?

Someone once suggested the possibility of the entire class eventually getting a Pactio with Negi. One of the responses was that Ayaka wouldn't; or if so, she'd be last, because Akamatsu wouldn't be able to resist the gag of her finding out everybody in her class had kissed Negi except her.

Of course, if nothing else, Chao, Natsumi, and Misora refute that idea pretty well. But she's still gonna hit the roof.

The main thing is, pretty much everyone not in the Magic World has been moved to the background since that arc started — not just Ayaka, but also Satsuki, Zazie, the twins, Satomi, and some others I know I'm missing. With the exception of that one chapter with Eva dressing up her classmates out of boredom, I think we've only seen Eva talking with Albireo Ku:Nel.

OverMaster?! You Da Man, Dawg from Valencia, Venezuela Since: Mar, 2010
You Da Man, Dawg
#1430: Apr 18th 2010 at 3:19:58 PM

^ ^ and ^ ^ ^: Yes, but... try explaining that to Iincho.

JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing
#1431: Apr 18th 2010 at 4:18:32 PM

Eva was also talking to Eishun. Yeah, I would guess that Natsumi, Misora, and Chao are completely out of the Negi-Pactio running. Eva most likely is too, although it would be awesome joke fodder for her to have to make a pactio with him for some reason. Or even better, a pactio with Albireo Ku:Nel. evil grin

Ayaka freaking out about the pactios is pretty much a given, if one remembers how she overreacted when she thought that Negi and Konoka were on a date. Or, if Akamatsu feels like screwing with us, she'll be perfectly fine with the idea and understand that most of the pactios were necessary.

edited 18th Apr '10 4:20:08 PM by JapaneseTeeth

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ShayGuy Since: Jan, 2001
#1432: Apr 18th 2010 at 4:30:47 PM

Hasn't there been speculation that Infernus Scholasticus can be broken via Pactio?

RavenWilder Raven Wilder Since: Apr, 2009
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#1433: Apr 18th 2010 at 4:53:52 PM

Me, I wanna find out what Hakase's been doing with the "overtechnology from the future" that Chao left behind.

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JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing
#1434: Apr 18th 2010 at 5:56:56 PM

@Shay Guy: There's been speculation on just about everything, so I'm sure that it was mentioned at some point.

@Raven Wilder: I'm kinda hoping time traveling / trans-dimensional Humongous Mecha. Or maybe an Infinite Improbability Drive. Realistically, it would probably be something integral to either keeping Mundus Magicus from collapsing, or getting everybody out of it before it does.

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Medinoc Chaotic Greedy from France Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#1435: Apr 19th 2010 at 1:27:10 AM

Infernus Scholasticus? What's that? Is it Nagi's curse on Eva?

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Jack_Rakan Broken Character from Mundus Magicus Since: Apr, 2010
Broken Character
#1436: Apr 19th 2010 at 1:28:51 AM

You know what I hate? How they made my favorite character Jack go out with a bang and an Obi wan moment, but then like 2-3 chapters later they tell us he can be brought back. They could have at least waited a bit more.

Also, has it been discussed on this thread that the Magical World Arc could be based on the story "Code of the Lifemaker"? I'd love to read all 50+ pages, but I don't have the time right now.

edited 19th Apr '10 1:33:22 AM by Jack_Rakan

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#1437: Apr 19th 2010 at 3:14:19 AM

I wonder if my theory about illusions not being able to live in the real world is correct since the tree is part of what is keeping the Magic world together and Alberio is basically trapped in the tree.

edited 19th Apr '10 3:15:34 AM by Raso

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JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing
#1438: Apr 19th 2010 at 5:37:47 AM

^^ There are definitely some thematic similarities (mainly the whole artificially created beings thing), although if I remember correctly that book focuses more on interactions between humans and the artificial beings than on the creator itself, especially the way humans exploit the artificial beings. The Magic World arc doesn't really touch on that aspect as much (they aren't even aware that the natives are artificial), so the name is probably more Shout-Out than anything.

^That makes a lot of sense. Can't believe I never thought of that.

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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#1439: Apr 19th 2010 at 6:04:33 AM

@Jack Rakan: There's always the possibility that there is a way to permanently "erase" an "illusory being" of Mundus Magicus.

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LarryD Incognito Since: Jan, 2001
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#1440: Apr 19th 2010 at 6:54:47 AM

Infernus Scholasticus? What's that? Is it Nagi's curse on Eva?

Yes, that's it exactly. I think it was designed as a disciplinary curse for truants which Nagi adapted, mainly by running the power up to nine thousand.

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Zeether Knight of Legend from Mahora (I wish) Since: Jan, 2001
Knight of Legend
#1441: Apr 19th 2010 at 7:13:11 AM

If Ayaka gets a pactio I wonder how similar it will be to the one she got in the first anime...probably nothing like it.

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Jack_Rakan Broken Character from Mundus Magicus Since: Apr, 2010
Broken Character
#1442: Apr 19th 2010 at 11:41:09 AM

That makes a lot of sense. Can't believe I never thought of that.

You wouldn't believe some of the info you can get if you make speculation threads on the right forum, or if you read the right blog. Personally I've never read "Code of the Lifemaker", so thanks for telling me that stuff.

If Ayaka gets a pactio I wonder how similar it will be to the one she got in the first anime...probably nothing like it.

What was it again? All I remember is that whip she got in the second series.

We should get Astronerdboy in here, he is amazing at speculating things in Negima.

Anyways, has it been speculated in this thread that Negi could possibly be his own father in disguise? They've made very subtle hints to it in the story.

edited 19th Apr '10 11:47:35 AM by Jack_Rakan

Gilphon Untrustworthy from The Third Sound Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#1443: Apr 19th 2010 at 11:46:42 AM

I'd say that's not very likely, because of his completely different personality. And the fact that they were definitely in the same place at the same time back when Negi's village was destroyed. And the fact that the identity of Negi's mother was a fairly big deal.

edited 19th Apr '10 11:47:04 AM by Gilphon

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Jack_Rakan Broken Character from Mundus Magicus Since: Apr, 2010
Broken Character
#1444: Apr 19th 2010 at 11:49:17 AM

True but he could he under a spell and just not remember anything to the point where he's grown another personality

Also have yopu noticed that Negi doesn't really think much of his Mother?

Gilphon Untrustworthy from The Third Sound Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#1445: Apr 19th 2010 at 11:53:46 AM

He started thinking about her a minute the question of her identity was raised. And no memory spell can explain the time Negi actually met Nagi.

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Jack_Rakan Broken Character from Mundus Magicus Since: Apr, 2010
Broken Character
#1446: Apr 19th 2010 at 11:58:22 AM

There can be. It could be possible that the person was someone disguised as Nagi. Personally I don't want to beleive this theory either, but everytime I read Astronerdboys blog he always brings in some new detail to go with this theory of his. Like why was Albireo asked to stay at Mahora 10 years ago?

JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing
#1447: Apr 19th 2010 at 12:43:18 PM

My theory about that is that he's actually from Mundus Magicus, and the World Tree enables him to survive, which is why he has to live near it, and why he's only active during the festival.

And the thing with the characters being brought back isn't too much of a problem because a) they can easily be permanently erased, and b) the only way to restore them is be defeating the Big Bad, so if it does happen, it won't be for a long time.

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Zeether Knight of Legend from Mahora (I wish) Since: Jan, 2001
Knight of Legend
#1448: Apr 19th 2010 at 12:49:20 PM

It would be cool if we could get ANB in here.

Ayaka's pactio in the first anime...I can't really remember too much but she had a blue semi-translucent dress on.

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Jack_Rakan Broken Character from Mundus Magicus Since: Apr, 2010
Broken Character
#1449: Apr 19th 2010 at 12:49:50 PM

Alright, that makes sense. So what do you guys think of those markings Chao had and Negi's Magia Erebea?

Gilphon Untrustworthy from The Third Sound Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#1450: Apr 19th 2010 at 12:50:45 PM

Any theory can be made plausible if you Hand Wave enough. Here's a good general rule of thumb: Compare the number of issues a theory resolves to the number of issues it resolves. If it raises more issues, the theory is not plausible.

For the specific theory in question:

Issues resolved:

  • Negi looks very similar to Nagi
  • Negi has progressed very quickly
  • Nagi's current whereabouts are unknown.

Issues Raised:

  • Negi is younger
  • Negi has a different set of memories
  • Negi has an entirely different personality
  • Nagi has been stated to be Negi's father
  • Negi and Nagi once met
  • Negi's magical skills are very different
  • The identity of Negi's mother is well-established
  • Most Ala Rubra members refer to Negi as Nagi's son; even when only among people who have similar knowledge of events  *

As you can see, the 'Issues raised' list is much longer, so the theory is not plausible.

Edit: Ninja'd quite a bit. As for the Chao thing, I personally don't believe the theory based on the fact that Negi recognized the effect before gaining any knowledge of ME, but recent events have certainly made it more plausible.

edited 19th Apr '10 12:53:26 PM by Gilphon

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