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Shlugo_the_great Since: Sep, 2009
#71751: Dec 4th 2015 at 1:10:27 PM

A bunch of schoolgirls that are much stronger than the vast majority of soldiers, gladiators ect. in the Magic World. And before you start questioning the idea of teenagers being much stronger than adults... stop, this is shonen, that'd be like cutting the branch we are all sitting on.

WorldTurtle2 Since: Jan, 2015
#71752: Dec 5th 2015 at 10:22:29 AM

Adults Are Useless is a trope for reason. There are probably some tropes about protagonists and main characters that could be applied here as well.

edited 5th Dec '15 10:23:18 AM by WorldTurtle2

Archivist10 Oh for God's sake! Since: Jan, 2013
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#71753: Dec 6th 2015 at 3:11:14 PM

it was the palaces core that was inaccessible, and Nagi only got Asuna out of there a unknown number of years after the fact

When does it say this? Last I remember it went Arika and AR saves world to Ostia collapsing, no one going back to Ostia except CE and CE nearly destroys the world again because no one thought of checking their old hideout.

And by 'school girls' I didn't mean to describe them as weak I meant more that with the large armies with ships and also badass AR affiliates walking around it isn't until 3A arrives that anyone beside CE decides to look in old Ostia?

edited 6th Dec '15 3:27:30 PM by Archivist10

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#71754: Dec 6th 2015 at 4:24:16 PM

Kaede's scouting of the area found the place filled with dragons and other dangerous stuff, It was implied that the rubble of collapsed country was a breeding ground for the worst kinds of monsters.

Archivist10 Oh for God's sake! Since: Jan, 2013
Oh for God's sake!
#71755: Dec 6th 2015 at 4:28:09 PM

And again; entire armies and Takahata were too scared to go in there?

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#71756: Dec 6th 2015 at 4:33:58 PM

Armies, probably. The real military muscle seems to be bound up with a few strong individuals. The place is filled with what were considered endgame boss type monsters which would just wreck any number of mooks.

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#71757: Dec 6th 2015 at 4:37:54 PM

The area is already a diplomatic landmine between the countries, sending in an army unit could start another war. Not to mention they are pretty weak outside of a few really strong men and dragon.

Death Glassses would have probably went there if he knew about it but he was probably focused on eliminating the secret orgs that were a direct threat.

edited 6th Dec '15 4:39:25 PM by Memers

SkormSnow-Strider Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#71758: Dec 6th 2015 at 7:51:32 PM

And again; entire armies and Takahata were too scared to go in there?

Oh for...I already told you. If you can obtain licences to explore the area itself and conduct tours of around its surroundings, then yes, armed forces and probably Takahata scoured the area to some extent some time later after the war. We're talking at least over a decade at this point, and two when CE was considered functionally dead and probably not hiding out in the ruins forever and ever like the idiots you think everyone is.

When does it say this? Last I remember it went Arika and AR saves world to Ostia collapsing

Dude, are you not even bothering to look at the pictures? The Lifemaker was staring at the palace with Megalo ships flying about it, and the Senator was questioning Arika on the basis of them not being able to get to where Asuna was locked away. We know for a fact that they maintained some force there almost ten years after the fact, and probably abandoned on the counts of the immediate threat being long thought dead, and their prize being plucked away.

edited 6th Dec '15 7:58:36 PM by SkormSnow-Strider

WorldTurtle2 Since: Jan, 2015
#71759: Dec 7th 2015 at 5:19:01 PM

Sometimes I feel that Negi's learning curve is impossible and then I come across examples like this that remind me that it in fact isn't.

Number 3 on this 50 Interesting Facts list tells of a 10-year-old girl who is already in university and has the best scores in her class.

Reality Is Unrealistic

EDIT: In hindsight it also would probably have been a good idea to go look under the Real Life folder on the Child Prodigy page.

edited 7th Dec '15 5:26:35 PM by WorldTurtle2

dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar
#71760: Aug 28th 2016 at 10:53:57 AM

Looked back at some of the early-to-mid volumes.

And I'm pondering: What is more infuriating, the romantic arc that went nowhere or the major plot arc that went nowhere?

I'm a (socialist) professional writer serializing a WWII alternate history webnovel.
kkhohoho Since: May, 2011
#71761: Aug 28th 2016 at 11:01:05 AM

[up]Why they can't both just be equally infuriating? Nothing wrong with that.

edited 28th Aug '16 11:02:36 AM by kkhohoho

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#71762: Aug 28th 2016 at 11:23:17 AM

The main plot arc is more important but the shipping angle gets bonus points for Akamatsu going out of his way to sink all the reasonable ships out of what appears to be nothing more than spite.

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#71764: Aug 28th 2016 at 11:32:32 AM

[up][up]This.

Because it wasn't done because he needed to Torch the Franchise and Run, he didn't need to do that. He did it because he wanted to spite all the shippers. Which I'm normally okay with, but it wasn't done in a funny way, so it sucks.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
Shlugo_the_great Since: Sep, 2009
#71765: Aug 28th 2016 at 11:55:34 AM

It's not like the fanbase had anything to do with him cutting things short, so spitting it by just sinking all the ships was pointless, And of course it probably bitten him in the ass come UQ Holder.

NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#71766: Aug 28th 2016 at 12:15:03 PM

> I say in interviews harems are dead, try to steer my series from a harem into a pure action manga, end up sinking all ships so I'm not seen as a harem author anymore.

> In my next series, I fall back on all the same old harem cliches and routines all over again.

Not sure if karma, stupidity, or a combination.

Archivist10 Oh for God's sake! Since: Jan, 2013
Oh for God's sake!
#71767: Aug 28th 2016 at 1:35:30 PM

I'm pretty sure Akamatsu has just become apathetic to harem romances. Just look at the MM arc where they became less of a focus IIRC, aside from Ako's arc which could have been editor's mandate due to her popularity. And he just said 'fuck it' to the romance because honestly he hadn't thought it through outside of 'editors say audience wants more harem then just add another girl easy peasy'.

Which he's also doing in UQ. He's just going through the motions with, aside from Kuromaro who has had some build up, the hero simply has to do something nice and girls instantly fall for him for no reason.

edited 28th Aug '16 1:37:25 PM by Archivist10

NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#71768: Aug 28th 2016 at 1:48:23 PM

Going from his pre-UQ commentaries on how he'd rather be an editor, and now on cutting back on the manga workload and delegating more responsibilities on a new generation, I'd say he's becoming apathetic towards active manga creation in general. His plotting overall has become sloppy and erratic, his character arcs barely try anymore, and so on. The artwork is pretty much the only part still keeping a high profile, and even there it's been hinted he doesn't do as much of the heavy art load anymore.

Shlugo_the_great Since: Sep, 2009
#71769: Aug 28th 2016 at 1:53:48 PM

The sad thing is, if he didn't torch Negima he could have finished it to satisfyingly by now and retire on a high note, instead being stuck with UQ Holder.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#71770: Aug 28th 2016 at 2:18:16 PM

Akamatsu doesn't want to actually try anymore, so he wouldn't have given Negima a satisfying conclusion anyway. Honestly I don't think he could've finished Negima well even had he not torched it.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#71771: Aug 28th 2016 at 2:28:14 PM

Well, presumably it'd still have been better than what we got.

The movie's plot allegedly was the original manga endgame, but then Akamatsu complained SHAFT had changed things, so until which point it reflected Akamatsu's original ideas we'll most likely never know. On one hand, the whole 'choose a partner within a day before we erase everyone's memories' is asinine and speaks very badly of the magical community, and the 'Mars will fall on Earth' event was almost as stupid (although more excusable since Mundus Magicus had been tampered with so much), but at least the girls didn't come as complete jerks there, unlike the Sports Festival.

However, neither ending had the final defeat of the Lifemaker, you know, the Big Bad and the father Negi spent the whole story looking for, so it'd have been a disappointment in terms of wrapping the core plot points, anyway.

Archivist10 Oh for God's sake! Since: Jan, 2013
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#71772: Aug 28th 2016 at 3:00:25 PM

Its remarkable that this series somehow produced two of the worst endings for an anime I've ever seen. Three if I count the first anime from which I hear is stupid but I never got pass episode 1.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#71773: Aug 28th 2016 at 3:35:19 PM

Negima had a lot of potential to have a good and satisfying ending. While there were many dangling plotlines, it was not impossible to resolve them.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
rikalous World's Cutest Direwolf from Upscale Mordor Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
World's Cutest Direwolf
#71774: Aug 28th 2016 at 9:16:51 PM

Yeah, Akamatsu basically just needed to keep giving a shit long enough to wrap everything up, and all would have been well.

Okay, people would still bitch about UQ Holder, but there wouldn't be quite the same undercurrent of bitterness and betrayal.

Medinoc from France (Before Recorded History)
#71775: Aug 28th 2016 at 9:30:49 PM

Don't worry, I'm sure if there's big enough outcry, he'll rewrite Negima's ending!

And publish it as End of Negima wink

"And as long as a sack of shit is not a good thing to be, chivalry will never die."

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