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vicarious vicarious from NC, USA Since: Feb, 2013
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CountofBleck (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#41902: Aug 17th 2016 at 3:36:52 PM

It seems her attacks are all based on Lilies

edited 17th Aug '16 3:37:13 PM by CountofBleck

CerotechOmega Since: Oct, 2010
#41903: Aug 17th 2016 at 3:58:04 PM

@Handsome Rob: Really? You think Mai's the one who gets cocked in fanart because she used to be male? Dear, they've been doing that to Makoto for quite a while now. Even if that wasn't the tip of the iceberg, I get the feeling that's not going to stop any time soon. note 

edited 17th Aug '16 4:00:46 PM by CerotechOmega

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#41904: Aug 17th 2016 at 4:19:06 PM

[up][up][up] not exactly; Litchi's staff can't switch directions mid throw.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#41905: Aug 17th 2016 at 4:35:26 PM

By that, I mean the deviants who draw BB porn will slap a cock on just about anyone.

Did some repair work on that for you.cool Nonetheless, your point is made. Though I wouldn't have thought Makoto would be the designated Futa.....

And why do I keep coming back to this discussion! Get me a knife to stab it with before it consumes us all.

CONSUMES US ALL!!!

edited 17th Aug '16 4:35:41 PM by HandsomeRob

One Strip! One Strip!
Emperordaein Grant us eyes from Australia Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
Grant us eyes
#41906: Aug 17th 2016 at 4:44:39 PM

wild mass guessMai fights Nine, gets a jagged rock to the heel and chest, and Noel arrives just in time to watch Nine incinerate her after Mai asks Nine about destiny.wild mass guess

edited 17th Aug '16 4:45:14 PM by Emperordaein

A corpse should be left well enough alone...
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#41907: Aug 17th 2016 at 5:07:41 PM

All of the Famitsu info on Mai

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#41908: Aug 17th 2016 at 5:20:51 PM

Truly she is the Lancer to Es's Saber.

Song of the Sirens
Konkfan7 Konknitive Dissonance from Roselle Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Konknitive Dissonance
Eryops Since: Jan, 2014
#41910: Aug 18th 2016 at 10:13:21 AM

The ability to have her spear change direction after being thrown sounds pretty cool.

By the way, the genderbending was central to the plot of Remix Heart; it wasn't an afterthought like some people seem to think. Mai being sent to the Academy under a false name, her search together with the other girls for a way to reverse the effects of her grimoire and her existential crisis caused by her fear that her original self was being lost and replaced by a new female self were all due to it.

In addition, Mai loses interest in women and starts liking men halfway through Remix Heart so she's not a yuri character. She is in love with a dude and the attempts of an actual lesbian to get close to her make Mai uncomfortable.

edited 18th Aug '16 10:13:52 AM by Eryops

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#41911: Aug 18th 2016 at 10:27:24 AM

Jesus. That's even stupider than I thought.

vicarious vicarious from NC, USA Since: Feb, 2013
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#41913: Aug 18th 2016 at 1:35:53 PM

I'm assuming the switch in sexuality besides gender.

It's one thing to be transgender. Another to be lol Azure magic, you a girl now.

I can't really respect the latter since I don't really trust this franchise to handle said issue with sensitivity and wisdom.

MightyKombat Since: Jan, 2001
#41914: Aug 18th 2016 at 1:45:36 PM

Yeah I was actually thinking how Mai was actually kinda transphobic, like it was almost completely trivializing the struggles actual transgender people go through. And the potentially homophobic/biphobic implication that because Mai was girl she couldn't still be into girls anyway.

Konkfan7 Konknitive Dissonance from Roselle Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Konknitive Dissonance
#41915: Aug 18th 2016 at 1:54:06 PM

I'm just going to keep clinging to my Bi Tsubaki headcanon...

edited 18th Aug '16 1:54:28 PM by Konkfan7

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#41916: Aug 18th 2016 at 1:54:51 PM

Please, Noel clearly wants to smother Makoto's giant rack.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
Eryops Since: Jan, 2014
#41917: Aug 18th 2016 at 2:17:47 PM

We are talking about a magical transformation that turned the entirety of Mai's body, including her brain, into that of a woman. One shouldn't equate it with gender reassignment surgery since the two are wildly different. The human brain is sexually dimorphic and there's quite a bit of scientific literature demonstrating that sexual orientation is the result of brain structure as well as that homosexuals have brains whose structure resembles those heterosexual members of the opposite sex. Here are a couple of recent papers that support that point: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18559854 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23555670

Therefore it would make sense that if the brain of a heterosexual male was magically transformed into that of a heterosexual female that their sexual orientation would change.

Mega_zxa Since: Mar, 2015
#41918: Aug 18th 2016 at 2:19:58 PM

[up]x6 Hmm... would it really be that strange. If a hetero man became a woman wouldn't he still be hetero, except for him hetero would mean being attracted to men rather than women. After all there is still a lot that we don't understand about the human body. Plus with the magic of the grimoire we don't know just how much was changed. It could be that the body was completely converted to a hetero females body with all that entails including having the brain be wired differently, and after all the mind can be considered the plaything of the body.

Konkfan7 Konknitive Dissonance from Roselle Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Konknitive Dissonance
#41919: Aug 18th 2016 at 2:22:08 PM

I'm not so sure about that. Orientation is... Well, we still really don't know what makes one straight, gay, bi, etc.

It might have something to do with the mind or something about an individual's hormones, but that's just a hypothesis. Speaking as a bisexual physical male.

The fact that this was all done with the most magical type of MAGIC EXPLANATION/HANDWAVE I can possibly think of makes this even less worth looking in to, though. It's hard to think of any logical explanation for it.

Also, this topic might get very volatile very fast, so mayybe we should shift to something else?

edited 18th Aug '16 2:23:26 PM by Konkfan7

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#41920: Aug 18th 2016 at 2:39:45 PM

Thanks Mori

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Rynnec Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#41921: Aug 18th 2016 at 2:47:48 PM

In addition, Mai loses interest in women and starts liking men halfway through Remix Heart so she's not a yuri character. She is in love with a dude and the attempts of an actual lesbian to get close to her make Mai uncomfortable.

I am now back to hating Remix Shart with a burning, infernal passion.

Eryops Since: Jan, 2014
#41922: Aug 18th 2016 at 2:53:54 PM

[up] Why? This sort of story has existed forever. Just look at The Metamorphoses by Ovid for example. Tiresias gets magically transformed into a woman, then marries a man and has children.

This is a fictional setting where magic exists, so I don't see why it ought to precisely correspond to our world. One could equally say that Blazblue is insensitive to people with dead friends or relatives in the way it trivializes death, since everyone keeps coming back to life.

Rynnec Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
#41923: Aug 18th 2016 at 3:13:22 PM

That was literally over 2 millenia ago, I am a lot less tolerant of this shit happening in stories made in the present day. Like Mighty said, this shit is incredibly insensitive to real life trans and gay people, which is unforgivable for something made in this current social climate.

Marona Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
#41924: Aug 18th 2016 at 3:14:20 PM

What chapter was it said Mai is no longer interested in women?

Niitris from Virginia, USA Since: Jul, 2014
#41925: Aug 18th 2016 at 3:20:41 PM

And if Mai remained male in spirit, you could argue that it promotes the stupid and arguably immature fantasy of men who want girl parts because they ogle other girls with no consequence, among other things

Not trying to change anyone's opinion, but I don't like reading into those kind of things. It's a silly story about genderbending is what I see.


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