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HamburgerTime The Merry Monarch of Darkness from Dark World, where we do sincerely have cookies Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: I know
The Merry Monarch of Darkness
#44976: Aug 29th 2014 at 3:48:58 PM

So on a whim I've been going back over the fight scenes in older arcs and among other things, i've noticed that Zoro usually has some sort of handicap:

  • Cabaji: Previously wounded
  • Meowban Brothers: Short two swords
  • Hachi: Sick and wounded
  • Mr. 1: Couldn't actually hit him
  • Ryuma: Short one sword.

Once he overcomes the handicap, I've also noticed he pretty much wins instantly, and so too does he in battles where there's no handicap. The only fight that was both a.) even, and b.) had no handicap was Kaku, and because of that I think that was his best fight (though Mr. 1 was cool too). We'll see where Pica falls on the pendulum; he seems to be at least keeping up, though not exactly "even."

The pig of Hufflepuff pulsed like a large bullfrog. Dumbledore smiled at it, and placed his hand on its head: "You are Hagrid now."
Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#44977: Aug 29th 2014 at 4:34:46 PM

It's not going to be a curbstomp, so unless Pica literally curb stomps Zoro and breaks all of his bones, this could be a Kaku type situation.

I wouldn't call Mr 1 a handicap, though.

alekos23 𐀀𐀩𐀯𐀂𐀰𐀅𐀡𐀄 from Apparently a locked thread of my choice Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#44978: Aug 29th 2014 at 4:52:08 PM

oh yeah,how come the Headcrackers are immortal?

Secret Signature
Diamite Rainy Echoes Since: Jul, 2013
Rainy Echoes
#44979: Aug 29th 2014 at 4:53:47 PM

This chapter was all about the Sniper of Awesome. And he knows how to Haki now. Sniping just got deadlier.cool

Brilliant, using Kanjuro's bad art as a part of the sniping. And he and Viola make a good team. All around, a good team effort.

Sugar will be scarred for life. Forever. ...Perona-level fear, or...tongue

Will Trebol's icky-gooeyness be effective, or will he told to move?tongue

edited 29th Aug '14 4:54:26 PM by Diamite

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
Role Model
#44980: Aug 29th 2014 at 4:56:31 PM

I thought Ussop drew it (he's a decent/good artist, remember?) and the samurai guy brought it to life.

The sad, REAL American dichotomy
HamburgerTime The Merry Monarch of Darkness from Dark World, where we do sincerely have cookies Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: I know
The Merry Monarch of Darkness
#44981: Aug 29th 2014 at 5:10:27 PM

[up][up][up] Probably just a different technique. The normal toys can apparently be killed since Gladius was going to 'splode Kyros's head.

The pig of Hufflepuff pulsed like a large bullfrog. Dumbledore smiled at it, and placed his hand on its head: "You are Hagrid now."
Gilphon Untrustworthy from The Third Sound Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Untrustworthy
#44982: Aug 29th 2014 at 5:50:20 PM

@HT: You never noticed the way Oda keeps forcing handicaps on Zoro before?

"Canada Day is over, and now begins the endless dark of the Canada Night."
HamburgerTime The Merry Monarch of Darkness from Dark World, where we do sincerely have cookies Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: I know
The Merry Monarch of Darkness
#44983: Aug 29th 2014 at 6:09:50 PM

[up] I knew he'd done it, I just never realized how consistent he was.

Also, rereading Zoro vs. Hachi cured me of much of my dissatisfaction with Zoro vs. Hyouzou. Badly-wounded!East Blue!Zoro gave Hachi only slightly more effort, and whatever the gap between Hachi and Hyouzou is, I find it... doubtful it's bigger than the gap between East Blue!Zoro and New World!Zoro. tongue

The pig of Hufflepuff pulsed like a large bullfrog. Dumbledore smiled at it, and placed his hand on its head: "You are Hagrid now."
HeavyDDR Who's Vergo-san. from Central Texas Since: Jul, 2009
Who's Vergo-san.
#44984: Aug 29th 2014 at 9:25:13 PM

Or fishmen are just bad swordsmen. Fishmen are also pretty isolated from the world, so, there's that too.

I'm pretty sure the concept of Law having limits was a translation error. -Wanderlustwarrior
rikalous World's Cutest Direwolf from Upscale Mordor Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
World's Cutest Direwolf
#44985: Aug 29th 2014 at 10:04:21 PM

Or fishmen are just bad swordsmen.
Racist. Yeah, the sushi's too dumb to learn proper swordfighting, is that it?

wanderlustwarrior Role Model from Where Gods Belong Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: What's love got to do with it?
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#44986: Aug 29th 2014 at 10:21:53 PM

You're the one using slurs. I prefer to think of Hyouzou as a big Fishman in a small pond.

The sad, REAL American dichotomy
HeavyDDR Who's Vergo-san. from Central Texas Since: Jul, 2009
Who's Vergo-san.
#44987: Aug 29th 2014 at 10:53:11 PM

Well when you think about it, swords are just not a good weapon to use underwater. That and fishmen are naturally huge brutes, they're better at hand-to-hand combat (hence fishman karate) than using weapons.

I'm pretty sure the concept of Law having limits was a translation error. -Wanderlustwarrior
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#44988: Aug 30th 2014 at 6:24:53 AM

This weeks comments! Everyone but Komi and Kubo are promoting stuff.

HamburgerTime The Merry Monarch of Darkness from Dark World, where we do sincerely have cookies Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: I know
The Merry Monarch of Darkness
#44989: Aug 30th 2014 at 7:27:40 AM

Ohh, so fish-people, by dint of being fish-people are less disciplined than non-fish-people?

The pig of Hufflepuff pulsed like a large bullfrog. Dumbledore smiled at it, and placed his hand on its head: "You are Hagrid now."
sarcasticles from Near a cornfield in Iowa Since: Nov, 2012
#44990: Aug 30th 2014 at 12:39:43 PM

Or, seeing how they've been banished to under the sea for the last hundred years, swordmanship hasn't really developed at all. A lot of the infrastructure on Fishman Island is coral and other ocean-y materials. It doesn't look like there's a lot of mining or metal working in general, making it difficult to make swords, let alone master the art. Instead, they've developed fishman karate, which is not only more practical considering their environment, also sets their culture apart from what's on the surface.

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HamburgerTime The Merry Monarch of Darkness from Dark World, where we do sincerely have cookies Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: I know
The Merry Monarch of Darkness
#44991: Aug 30th 2014 at 12:48:05 PM

Reread some of Skypiea last night. I forgot how hardcore Wyper was. He fights evenly with Luffy, Zoro, and Ener himself, gets up from severe punishment more than any of the Straw Hats do, and was apparently the first person in recorded history to use a Reject Dial more than twice without keeling over stone dead. If he weren't so devoted to his people he wouldn't make a bad Straw Hat himself.

The pig of Hufflepuff pulsed like a large bullfrog. Dumbledore smiled at it, and placed his hand on its head: "You are Hagrid now."
HeavyDDR Who's Vergo-san. from Central Texas Since: Jul, 2009
Who's Vergo-san.
#44992: Aug 30th 2014 at 1:04:10 PM

Makes me wonder all the people that were considered possible Straw Hats by the fandom. I know Dalton was apparently heavily considered way back in the day. I feel like Wyper would have, too. Kaku especially was considered since he was so... quirky.

Of course everyone wanted Shirahoshi to join. Incredibly left-field that she didn't.

I'm pretty sure the concept of Law having limits was a translation error. -Wanderlustwarrior
HamburgerTime The Merry Monarch of Darkness from Dark World, where we do sincerely have cookies Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: I know
The Merry Monarch of Darkness
#44993: Aug 30th 2014 at 1:06:57 PM

[up] Paulie was a big one; Franky vs. Paulie was a Flame War inducing topic for a while. I think this was probably down to him having an extremely well-developed fighting style for a side character.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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HamburgerTime The Merry Monarch of Darkness from Dark World, where we do sincerely have cookies Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: I know
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#44995: Aug 30th 2014 at 1:15:05 PM

[up] Interestingly enough, I remember Arlong Park did a Franky vs. Paulie poll shortly after Franky's powers were revealed and Paulie was still winning.

Then there was another during Enies Lobby, though, where Franky was overwhelmingly chosen.

The pig of Hufflepuff pulsed like a large bullfrog. Dumbledore smiled at it, and placed his hand on its head: "You are Hagrid now."
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#44996: Aug 30th 2014 at 1:22:27 PM

Yea, the time Franky is captured and when Enies Lobby started, it was pretty clear he was going to join.

huh, I think this is the longest period we've gone without any actual new crew members; Brook joined years ago, and since then we've only had Guest Star Party Members, though I guess that's Oda's way of adding more people on the ship, without them actually joining.

Kinemon, Law, and Monenoske are pretty much serving the same purpose as Vivi.

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HamburgerTime The Merry Monarch of Darkness from Dark World, where we do sincerely have cookies Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: I know
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#44997: Aug 30th 2014 at 1:26:12 PM

The current favorite at Arlong Park is Bartolomeo, which I'm just not really seeing. He's a Captain himself, after all.

The pig of Hufflepuff pulsed like a large bullfrog. Dumbledore smiled at it, and placed his hand on its head: "You are Hagrid now."
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Oh for God's sake!
#44998: Aug 30th 2014 at 1:32:23 PM

I see him as becoming one of the Straw Hat's many allies in the New World. In fact, this arc seems to be establishing many possible allies.

HamburgerTime The Merry Monarch of Darkness from Dark World, where we do sincerely have cookies Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: I know
The Merry Monarch of Darkness
#44999: Aug 30th 2014 at 1:33:57 PM

[up] Oh yeah. That's a major running theme thus far in the New World, getting other pirates in their debt, I've noticed.

The pig of Hufflepuff pulsed like a large bullfrog. Dumbledore smiled at it, and placed his hand on its head: "You are Hagrid now."
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#45000: Aug 30th 2014 at 1:37:24 PM

Luffy has turned the power Mihawk described on overdrive for the New World, he's gonna have an army big enough to take on Big Mom at this rate.

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