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NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#45951: Jan 12th 2017 at 6:14:57 AM

I would recommend pretty strongly against keeping anyone who's tired in your party, or continuing at all if it's your MC. "Tired" is basically a status effect that lowers basically every aspect of combat performance — they miss more often, do less damage when they hit, take more damage when they're attacked, receive less healing from allies, and (most importantly) are more likely to get critted. "Sick" is the same as "Tired", but moreso. Random crits can and will ruin your day, and an unlucky one can one-shot you — which, if it's your MC, is Game Over because We Cannot Go On Without You.

Also, don't mess with Death. (Or, well, if you're going to mess with Death then save first.) He's Bonus Boss tier — even at high levels (like, 70s) he's a tough fight unless you build a party specifically to cheese him to death. And even that can go horribly wrong if you're unlucky.

He does look pretty badass, though. Half Grim Reaper and half Ghost Rider, while dual-wielding enormous long-barreled pistols.

edited 12th Jan '17 6:15:33 AM by NativeJovian

Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.
Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#45952: Jan 12th 2017 at 8:56:09 AM

... where's the Ghost Rider come from?

EDIT: Oh right, the chains, I'm assuming.

edited 12th Jan '17 8:56:30 AM by Larkmarn

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Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#45953: Jan 12th 2017 at 8:58:23 AM

The Reaper is there to keep you from dallying on one floor for too long and to add an element of risk to Shuffle Time and accident floors. You won't be able to handle it for a good, long while.

I sure said that!
NativeJovian Jupiterian Local from Orlando, FL Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Jupiterian Local
#45954: Jan 12th 2017 at 9:04:20 AM

[up][up]The chains and the exposed head (rather than being hooded like most depictions of the grim reaper), yeah.

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TPPR10 Shocking Gun! from out of nowhere Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Shocking Gun!
#45955: Jan 12th 2017 at 9:05:51 AM

[up] The Reaper actually has a sack over its head.

Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!
Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#45956: Jan 12th 2017 at 9:07:08 AM

Through which you can see one crazed eye.

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Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#45957: Jan 12th 2017 at 9:14:47 AM

You should be fine if you go choose to go back when your party members are tired. You won't be underleveld or anything for the boss fights.

Also, you probably already know this from regular SMT but you should fuse a lot.

edited 12th Jan '17 9:16:01 AM by Draghinazzo

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#45958: Jan 12th 2017 at 9:19:03 AM

Difficulty level also determines how expensive purchasing Persona from your Compendium is.

CountofBleck (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#45959: Jan 12th 2017 at 9:20:18 PM

The Nintendo Switch conference decided to give us a curveball for us SMT and Persona fans...

Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#45960: Jan 16th 2017 at 8:24:03 AM

Opinions needed, my good fellows.

I have just learned PSTV is a thing and not just some weird add-on for the $200 Vita. Indeed, it costs about a 1/4 as much as a Vita.

As such, Persona 3 Portable and Persona 4 Golden are within my grasp.

Should I hold off and play them instead of the versions I got off PSN?

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#45961: Jan 16th 2017 at 8:27:49 AM

Maybe, maybe not.

I'd say go for it if you hadn't gotten the PS2 versions on theSN already.

There's a lot of niche games on Vita that might or might not tip the scales more for you, so I'd recommended more research.

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#45962: Jan 16th 2017 at 8:34:32 AM

You can get a Vita for much less than 200$. I got mine for 90$.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#45963: Jan 16th 2017 at 9:31:49 AM

You already have the ps2 versions, so I suggest playing those.

Crowfall Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#45964: Jan 16th 2017 at 3:21:53 PM

Also, unless you want to play the female route, I'd suggest FES over P 3 P anyway.

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#45965: Jan 16th 2017 at 6:30:41 PM

[up] x5 You know, I can't believe they actually made Jack Frost look scary.

Wake me up at your own risk.
Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#45966: Jan 16th 2017 at 7:08:11 PM

Imo get the Vita TV, there are so many good rpgs to play on it that it's worth the 40 or 50$ you spend on it.

Just make sure that they play on it, Square's recent vita games World Of Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest Builders notably do not for some ungodly reason. And a few of the oldest titles do not.

But all the Persona games, the Atelier Series, Final Fantasy 1-X2, Tales Of Hearts R, The Legend Of Heroes Trails In The Sky, The Legend Of Heroes Trails Of Cold Steel and so on work. Hell its worth buying for Trails In The Sky or Cold Steel alone.

edited 16th Jan '17 7:12:45 PM by Memers

kkhohoho Since: May, 2011
#45967: Jan 16th 2017 at 7:15:44 PM

[up]Mind you, you can also play Trails if you just have a PC, but whatever floats your boat. Whichever route you pick though, PLAY EET! PLAY EET! PLAY EET!grin

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#45968: Jan 16th 2017 at 7:34:39 PM

Yeah, completely agreed on the PLAY IT! The PC version plays on computers one step up from a toaster so play it anyway!

Vita is the only place to play Cold Steel and Sky, which is why I brought them up, even though they are on PC and PS 3 receptively too. Cold Steel 1 itself pulls a lot of gameplay elements from Persona 3 and 4 like school, a calendar, relationship links and such but uses them very differently.

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#45969: Jan 17th 2017 at 5:56:22 AM

Plus, the PSTV can be used as basically a smart TV, which if you don't have one (or an Apple TV, Chrom Cast, Amazon Fire, etc.) can be incredibly practical.

Keep in mind you'll need to get a controller though which can be annoying.

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Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#45970: Jan 17th 2017 at 10:25:10 AM

Most PST Vs come with a PS 3 controller, but I wouldn't say that it's a smart tv. Sure You Tube and Crunchyroll work just fine but the Netflix app doesn't work on it and the twitch app for vita was quietly canned.

It can be used to connect to your PS 4 though and use that, I lack a PS 4 so not sure exactly what it does.

Pulse The Fool from Yadayadaville Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Fool
#45971: Jan 17th 2017 at 11:01:10 AM

You can stream PS 4 games from your PS 4 to your PSTV, though hell if I know how well it works.

It's best to think of it as an Ouya-style microconsole that isn't trashgarbage, basically.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#45972: Jan 17th 2017 at 11:08:50 AM

I don't know how the PSTV can stream PS 4 games either.

Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#45973: Jan 18th 2017 at 6:05:14 AM

Well maybe I'll play P 3 P someday. But well, let's just say FES has won me over to getting a PSTV so I can play Persona 4 Golden. If it is as good a game as this, or even better (seems to be a hotly debated subject) then it is well worth my money. And I already have a controller so....

    Person 3 FES Update 1 

So Persona 3 is almost as addictive as Nocturne, just in a very different way.

That being said, I've died so many times in Tartarus now because I just can't stop. Never stop going. Going back feels like such a waste of time and effort. I want more items, more EXP, more everything. My most recent game over was just as Akihiko returned. I felt really confident and promptly stumbled into an ambush that annihilated me.... Those fucking mages.

In that run I had put some token effort into Academics because Mitsuru-senpai asked me to. She's a favorite character of mine at present (she really reminds me of Erza Scarlet for some reason. I'd prefer a Lucy but Erza will do) so I put in about a week's worth of studying. It didn't seem to help much... So I said fuck it after my game over and spent my time on more productive pursuits. Thanks to the Cafe I got my Charm up to Unpolished (been spending a lot of my free time there) and I also went to the Shrine to get my fortune told about me and Chihiro. Things are looking good for us and I got 10,000 yen. See? Studying is for newbs. Speaking of which, I also really like "Maya." Glad I played some of Persona 2 before this or I wouldn'tt get any of her opening references.

I joined the Kendo team but blew off Kaz when Chihiro accepted my offer to walk her home... I dunno what happens when you ignore their invite. I did the same for Kenji way back at the start of teh game and he just doesn't really talk to me anymore But he's like, a womanizing jerk.

Hey...I somehow did okay on the mid terms.

Also Kenji wanted to talk to me again but Chihiro approached me at lunch and yeah, I'm not passing up a chance to help her so I can talk wit that dingus. I just hope I'm not losing out on anything.

So basically the Student Council are the best characters in the game. Right now my S Links are highest with Hidetoshi and Chihiro. And if the game would friggin' let me really talk to Mitsuru-senpai, I'd raise that higher too. You know, given the way the game says "check Social Link status" or something whenever you are given the option of hanging out with someone, it's clear they kind of view all of this as some sort of...well, game. Your S Link with Chihiro is high level so you don't need to hang out with her but your level with Kenji is really low so be sure to meet with him. Fuck that. Do they think I'm some sort of sociopath? These aren't numbers, they're my buddies. And in Chihiro's case, absolutely adorable and I love her to pieces.

Should I be concerned if my teammates get KO'ed? I mean, in relation to this game's unique mechanics? I just had Akihiko and Junpei get KO'ed during the miniboss at the 35 or 36th floor because I was dumb and missed the little terminal down. As such, we went into the fight unprepared and without saving and I was NOT doing that shit all over again. But now they're Sick and that keeps you from exploring with a full party....

How long is this game though? It's the start of June now, investigating "ghost attacks" that are obviously the actions of Fuuka but I'm more worried about how low all my "social skills are." Charm is still only Rank 2 and Courage and Academics are Rank 1.... I've ignored Academics all game. Is it too late to salvage it? The NPC said Mitsuru-senpai would never notice me unless I leveled up in Academics.... I man, I love Chihiro but still....

Why do I even fucking bother using buffs in this fucking dumb game? I just lost to the stupid bosses you get after meeting Fuuka. Good job weakening their offense and upping our defense. And by good job I mean it didn't fucking do jack or shit. I have to do all that crap all over again. This game is no Noctruen. Buffs and debuffs are fucking worthless.

Okay...the bosses weren't that bad, I think Junpei is just under-leveled because he was sick while I explored a lot of the second tier of Tartarus. Then when I got to the limit I could get to, I went and spent all my time doing other things.

My Academics are now Average. Mitsuru-senpai notice me now? (also where did the "notice me senpai" meme come from?)

And I was totally off-base about Fuuka going all Carrie on her bullies and using her Persona to fuck with them... I don't get it though. The Shadows wanted to torment her toromenters? But yes, it's bout time Mitsuru actually became part of the team. Get to put her in that armor Elizabeth gave me. It's, uh, for the mission. It has the best defense stat of all the armors Ihave....

"Your notion of right and wrong is irrelevant. My client's wishes are all that matter." I like this guy. He sounds like one of my WRPG Heroes. This whole plotline comes out of nowhere though... From Shadows to weird Internet-inspired assassins.

I think I must have been doing something wrong with the boss on the 59th floor, a wind horse dude or something. None of my attacks did any real damage. All I could find to do was Charm him. That kept him immobilized while we chipped away his health.

There HAS to be a better way to improve Academics. I've been doing nothing but studying for like, two weeks (not counting getting Tired so I can't study), neglecting valuable Social Link and Tartarus grinding time, and I still can't get it to Rank 3. AND THERE'S THREE MORE RANKS TO GO. Everyone is warning me to be prepared for the next full moon in July but I just Academics to get as high as I can for Mitsuru-senpai.... My Charm went up to Rank 3 somehow but Courage is still Level 1. It told me I had to be a badass to help Fuuka with Cooking so yeah, that ain't ever happening. But when I talk to Mitsuru about joining me on a walk home, it doesn't give me any helpful hints.... I just keep studying.

And I know there's something funny going on with Mitsuru because: a) Yukari won't shut up about it and B) The Old Documents mention her family founding a research lab on an island with nothing else but a school on it... So maybe her dad or something was a mad scientist and this is all his fault.

But ya know, the plot of this game is...whatever. I just want Mitsuru to open up to me.

So my game crashing after the hotel Shadow boss made me think maybe it's time to stop. Luckily the two bosses there were really easy so redoing them was no problem. I was all worried over nothing.

So Academics and Charm are at Rank 3. Maxed out Treasurer Social Link. Have utterly neglected every other SL because of obsessing over Academics. Am trying to remember where the hell you buy cat food for one of Elizabeth's requests. I'm sure it was at the school shop...maybe they sell different stuff depending on the day?

Anyway, fucking love this game. Best songs so far are the school music and the boss music. Although the dorm music is charmingly terrible.

Favorite characters are Mitsuru, Mitsuru and maybe Mitsuru. Akihiko is kinda neat given he's all ~mysterious~ with that Shinjiro guy who apparently used to belong to our little Persona club and who I bet anything will be in our party later on. Chihiro is adorable but when it comes right down to it, I prefer women like Mitsuru. I feel slightly bad Kaz is probably failed his regional sand is a cripple now. Also wonder if it's too late to rekindle the Student Council S Link.

Buffs seem a bit more useful now... Tarukaja gets another 30 or even 40 damage out of 'em.

And the main plot with Pharos and Shadows and whatever.... Uh...it's okay I guess. I'm more interested in the three new people and whatever Mitsuru is maybe hiding.

edited 18th Jan '17 6:14:05 AM by Nikkolas

CybranGeneralSturm Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#45974: Jan 18th 2017 at 6:15:08 AM

[up]Yukari, Mitsuru, and Fuuka are all Social Links that require a social stat to be maxed out before beginning. Yukari is really popular so you need maxed out Charm to begin her link, Fuuka's link requires maximum courage since it involves her cooking, and Mitsuru's link I believe has some stuff that requires really good Academics to understand. Honestly, you're better off maxing all Social Links on a New Game Plus. There's also a lot of stuff in Yukari's Social Link that is really counter-intuitive to American gamers.

edited 18th Jan '17 6:15:53 AM by CybranGeneralSturm

Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#45975: Jan 18th 2017 at 6:18:29 AM

...so you need a second playthrough to actually get close to the other main characters?


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