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The only thing I can think of is AM/FM (actual machines/fucking magic).
Mathematics Is A Language.
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Foo Mistake? Accuracy Lapse? (I think I am missing the point of "compare to phlebotinum", what is it?)
edited 14th Nov '10 1:14:00 PM by rodneyAnonymous
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I know that I've been keeping an eye on several of the You Fail tropes, and I can say with certainty that You Fail Economics Forever is, and You Fail Logic Forever was, a constant stream of justifying edits, counter-justifying edits, Take Thats, baby essays on the fine points of the subject, and assorted other Natter.
We even discussed (on the discussion page for Economics) whether part of the problem is that the name sets up an adversarial atmosphere. The conclusion was that while much of the problem is that economics has so many different schools, some of which are diametrically opposed to others in how they presume a system works, the name sure wasn't reducing the animosity.
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Hmmm. I'm beginning to think an approach much like the one I took with the You Fail The IQ Test page (thread here
) would work better. As Fast Eddie said, they aren't really tropes.
In this case, though, we'd be looking through the examples to establish tropes, and it wouldn't nearly be as clear cut as the IQ case. I'd say what should be done is to look for possible tropes that meets the three examples part of the Three Rules Of Three, and then send them all to YKTTW.
The rest of the examples can be junked, moved to Darth Wiki, or anything else that we see fit to do with them. Then we can just kiss the "You Fail" name goodbye.
Expergiscēre cras, medior quam hodie. (Awaken tomorrow, better than today.)
I'm watching you, scum.
This will sound strange, but how about "X Doesn't Work This Way"?
I don't have a better idea (naming is not my strong point), but X Goof is just boring. We can do better without being "inflammatory," I'm sure of it.
Diagonalizing The Matrix
You see, me and my friend have this in-joke. We once watched the discovery channel or somesuch in some ungodly morning hour, and there was a creepily weird feature about some possible prehistoric alien invasion for the purpose of scouring gold, which was needed to solve the aliens' global warming problem.
At some point some guy was introduced as an "alternative knowledge expert" and proceeded to seriously discuss these aliens and their ancient global warming problem, at which point we lost it. Alternative knowledge! What a triumph!
In this spirit I humbly throw into the pool Alternative Physics, Alternative Mathematics, Alternative Biology, etc etc.
edited 15th Nov '10 11:39:30 AM by TripleElation
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Ooh. Alternative Physics for the win, I'd say.![[lol]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/lol2v12_4863.png "[lol]"){kind=small}
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I actually like this because it's pretty snarky.
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I see the Awesomeness.
The only problem I have with Alternative Physics is that it sounds too much like Hollywood Phyisics which implies a consistency which may not be present.
Fight smart, not fair.
Diagonalizing The Matrix
Hah. Well, that depends on how sympathetic you are towards being alternative. Just ask the people proud to be practicing Alternative Medicine.
edited 15th Nov '10 11:46:39 AM by TripleElation
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I like Alternative Physics as well.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
Mighty pirate!
We'll need to do something with YouFailHistoryForever, though. Alternative History and Alternate History are waaaaaaay too close for comfort.
edited 26th Apr '11 11:59:49 AM by Madrugada
Diagonalizing The Matrix
Hm. Alternative Account Of History?
I'm A Dirty Cowboy
Hehehe...Alternative Chemistry.
Done a fair amount of that in my time.
Oh crap, I sound like one of those idiots who's proud to've killed off their brain cells with dumb shit eh? 
Life is a constant minefield...sigh...
I like Alternative Physics.
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It won't work for YouFailYourMedicalBoardsForever — that would become Alternative Medicine.
edited 26th Apr '11 12:00:15 PM by Madrugada
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That one is a special case I think. We could probably give it it's own name. There will always be special cases where any snowclone just won't work.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
Yup. Exception that proves the rule.
I can live with that.
I see the Awesomeness.
Doctor Failure for that one then? Or Screw Medical Practices.
edited 15th Nov '10 2:01:48 PM by Deboss
Fight smart, not fair.
I like Screw Medical Practices.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
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Like any other name change, the benefit has to outweigh the cost.
I'm guessing that a more usable term for it could turn the 'you fail' stuff into a tropes of legend level goody. Just an intuition. The You Fails have been around just as long as the phlebotinums. Something is slowing them down, adoption-wise. Comparatively speaking.
Can anyone think of a negative we can compare to phlebotinum to get a little paralax going?
edited 14th Nov '10 1:09:57 PM by FastEddie
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