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Quoth Karkat The Dalek:

(Obligatory Twin Peaks and BnP recommendations)

edited 28th Aug '15 4:32:48 AM by Medinoc

Have you ever seen Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann?

Not yet. Not entirely sure if I'd be interested.

I'd recommend Space Dandy.

Also, yeah, that novel sounds suspiciously Homestuck-like. It could be a coincidence, but that blurb sounds almost exactly like something you'd come up with if someone gave you the prompt "Homestuck as a YA novel".

Damn it. Looking at that book blurb made me realize: Homestuck is also a YA dystopia story!

I mean discounting how that only sort-of works.

Huh. It's almost as if those are actual categories and not just literary insults.

It took us so long to realise because Homestuck is actually good.

I don't know if "dystopia" is the right word - I would think that would require the Earth to be, you know, not destroyed.

Joking or otherwise, let's not dismiss entire genres here.

Hey, is there any work where a character ostensibly performs a Bat Deduction, but is revealed to have actually used a correct reasoning (via inner monologue, or later explanation) and only used the Bat Deduction as Obfuscating Insanity?

Inb4 "That was what Batman was doing all along!"

I know I've seen that, but I can't remember where.

Hah, oh wow. I'm not saying all YA is derivative, predictable Follow the Leader tripe, but I saw a couple movies witg my girlfriend and I could've told you the exact dialogue to come five seconds into every scene.

City of Bones sucks is all I'm saying.

Mhm. Seems like the kind of thing that should happen, but I can't think of any examples.

It's tricky, because if the writer's savvy enough to avoid Bat Deduction, usually the side characters are savvy enough to catch it.

I feel like it almost certainly happened at some point in Death Note, though. Maybe in the second half, where Light had to jump through a lot of hoops to avoid letting people know he knew who Kira was.

Also, to comment on that thing from before, I wouldn't really consider to be Homestuck a Dystopia either. I also don't know if it fits the "YA" genre criteria either. It has characters that fit those descriptions, but you can have a story about teenagers that isn't part of that genre.

edited 28th Aug '15 10:40:19 AM by JapaneseTeeth

Uh, "Young Adult" is not really a genre, it is more like a target demographic. And Homestuck happens to appeal of the same demographic.

Also, I was just looking at the Wikipedia article for YA. Take a look at the Themes section. Homestuck hits almost all of them.

That also fits countless Adult fiction as well. The list is completely arbitrary.

That's why I put it in quotes. Also, while Homestuck might have some appeal to that demographic, it wasn't written for that specific purpose. The defining characteristic of "YA literature" is that it's written specifically with an adolescent-age demographic in mind, which I don't think Homestuck is. There's a difference between "appeals to teens" and "was written for the specific purpose of appealing to teens". And yeah, that "list of themes" is hilariously vague to the point of being useless. Stuff like "Identity" and "family issues" are nigh-universal. Not to mention that they tag "numerous others" on at the end there, which is code for "pretty much anything".

I'm not saying that Homestuck doesn't have a lot of overlap with the common characteristics of the classification, but I think it also has way too much non-characteristic stuff to qualify.

edited 28th Aug '15 11:03:31 AM by JapaneseTeeth

@KK the DK: Wolf's Rain. It's a story about 4 wolves finding their way home in the middle of a ruined future. It's got some great themes about the environment. If you like Bishies, drama, good dubbing, and if you hate SARS, this is the Anime for you.

edited 28th Aug '15 11:00:01 AM by DrPsyche

SARS?

The anime almost wasn't finished due to an outbreak of SARS, and budget cuts. There's also some worthless clipshow episodes for money reasons. It stuck with me because a while back my family had this big to do about SARS, and I keep remembering it because the name was funny.

EDIT: Apparently Wolf's Rain's creator also helped with Kingdom Hearts.

edited 28th Aug '15 11:13:02 AM by DrPsyche

Moth recommended it before, but Gatchaman Crowds is good. It's an interesting, really modern take on superheroes and social media, and manages to be a pretty engaging story itself.

Otherwise... does Kamen Rider Fourze count as an anime? Because it is really anime.

I could probably recommend some stuff. What are you looking for?

Homestuck's target age demographic is shifting between 30-40 to 12-16 and anything inbetween on short notices.

Homestuck doesn't have a target demographic

This, basically. Homestuck's "target demographic" is roughly "anybody who might be interested, and a few who aren't".

Homestuck's target demographic is anybody old enough to start understanding spacetime/multiverse shenanigans. If some people are born as geniuses, then it can be recommended as baby books.

"What do you read to your little children before they go to sleep?"

"Homestuck!"

@Gilphon: definitely a Death Note example. How about the part where Misa proves Higuchi is Kira and nobody knows how she did it, while she in fact had a good plan and used info only she and Light know.

edited 28th Aug '15 11:48:24 AM by WolfMattGrey