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Arilou Taller than Zim from Quasispace Since: Jan, 2001
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#51: Jan 21st 2010 at 1:48:26 PM

Episode 15 was hilarious. I loved Kurumi's "transformation", also, her reaction when Kazehaya said he loved someone else "THAT'S OBVIOUS!"

Wonderful show, btw.

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Tzetze DUMB from a converted church in Venice, Italy Since: Jan, 2001
DUMB
#52: Jan 21st 2010 at 3:12:39 PM

Stopped reading. I couldn't take her constant praise of the dude.

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AckSed Pat. St. of Archive Binge from Pure Imagination Since: Jan, 2001
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#53: Jan 21st 2010 at 4:04:35 PM

Try the anime? It feels a bit more balanced to me.

Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.
Tzetze DUMB from a converted church in Venice, Italy Since: Jan, 2001
DUMB
#54: Jan 21st 2010 at 4:05:21 PM

I've decided not to pirate anime for a while. Maybe I'll watch it later.

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Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#55: Jan 22nd 2010 at 1:04:53 AM

It's not pirating if you don't actually download it!

Wait, why have you sworn off pirating anime if you still pirate manga.

PS: Also, I really wish they had a larger budget for this series. The few scenes they really animated fully and carefully are gorgeous! The rest... not quite so much.

edited 22nd Jan '10 1:07:24 AM by Fawriel

Anemotaxis legacy interface Since: May, 2009
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#56: Jan 22nd 2010 at 6:13:37 AM

ep15:

Well, the flashbacks have basically explained Kurumi's actions w/r/t Kazehaya enough for me— it doesn't make them any more or less right, but at least they're justified in-story. Her mistreatment by her "friends" is pretty much why she thinks she can't approach Kazehaya directly, because she's afraid of getting backstabbed, so she tries to manipulate everyone else out of the loop beforehand.

I kind of want to see where the series takes nu-Kurumi; her confession to Kazehaya and explicit declaration of rivalry with Sawako seem to show that she's going to be more honest with everyone. In her own little funny way.

edited 22nd Jan '10 6:13:53 AM by Anemotaxis

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Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#57: Jan 22nd 2010 at 9:31:48 AM

So, Ack Sed, if you really are like Sawako.

Uh.

Will you marry me. ._.

Meeble likes the cheeses. from the ruins of Granseal Since: Aug, 2009
likes the cheeses.
#58: Jan 22nd 2010 at 11:25:57 AM

The music leaves something to be desired, but I think the ending theme has room to grow on me.

Revisiting this statement I made in the OP, as I do have to say that the music in this series really has grown on me even more than I thought it would. The OP has even elevated itself to "Unskippable" status for me, which is fairly rare (Aoi Hana and Nodame Cantabile being the only other series that qualify.)

All in all, I just adore this series. I don't find it to be a masterpiece plot or animation wise, but it never fails to make me feel good while watching it. I don't see how I could ask for too much more in a series.

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Tzetze DUMB from a converted church in Venice, Italy Since: Jan, 2001
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#59: Jan 22nd 2010 at 3:13:24 PM

It's not pirating if you don't actually download it!

When you watch streaming video you download it, it's just not manipulable without shady tools.

Wait, why have you sworn off pirating anime if you still pirate manga.

Most anime I watch are popular things that aren't too hard for me to buy, like Ghost In The Shell Standalone Complex. Most of the manga that I read are never (officially) translated into English, and if they are then I can just get them from the library. Also, the main reason I swore of anime piracy is as a self-psychological measure to get me to buy more. Right now all I have is Full Metal Panic, which I don't even like. </offtopic>

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Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#60: Jan 22nd 2010 at 11:56:08 PM

When you watch streaming video you download it, it's just not manipulable without shady tools.

All I have to do is go in my temp folder... ._.

AckSed Pat. St. of Archive Binge from Pure Imagination Since: Jan, 2001
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#61: Jan 23rd 2010 at 8:44:52 PM

@ Fawriel: *fidgets* Umm... Sweet of you,but I can't. Look at my profile :-|

edited 23rd Jan '10 8:46:52 PM by AckSed

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Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#62: Jan 24th 2010 at 12:57:05 AM

Worry not about the shackles of gender roles, my friend! Tear them apart with your strong yet elegant hands! Together, we shall ride into a new dawn, into the glorious lands where a man may love another man if he is sufficiently girly!

That...

Is my dream.

Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#63: Jan 24th 2010 at 3:23:20 AM

GRAAAAAAAH.

I KNEW KURUMI WAS TROUBLE! TROUBLE! TROUBLLLLLLLLLLE!!!! AAAARGH!

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#64: Jan 24th 2010 at 3:25:10 AM

You'll have to be more specific. tongue

Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#65: Jan 24th 2010 at 6:17:31 AM

HUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH

... I just watched like half the series in one go.

KURUMI!!!!!!

... I can't believe she actually ended up being a sympathetic character. I already knew the moment I saw her that she's a back-stabbing snake, and then she turned out to be one, and then stuff, and then POW and WHAM and then the whole misunderstanding with Pin happened and I actually felt sorry for her and I was like "Faw you're not supposed to feel sorry for her" but then I was like "wait a second would this series actually end up with an unsympathetic monster for a villain?! I guess it's to be expected... Alas!" and then she was actually sympathetic anyway SOMEHOW and her characterization after the confession was AWESOME and.

I love this series. ._.

Mapi "keionbu ni yokusou, nyan?" from Sakurakou Keionbu Since: Aug, 2011
"keionbu ni yokusou, nyan?"
Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#67: Jan 24th 2010 at 6:21:54 AM

I guess when the best couples are taken, the leftovers have to.. lower their.. standards? A bit? In, uh. All sorts of ways?

Also, I read the rest of the thread now! ... There's ecchi in the manga? Or did I just misread that.

Mapi "keionbu ni yokusou, nyan?" from Sakurakou Keionbu Since: Aug, 2011
"keionbu ni yokusou, nyan?"
#68: Jan 24th 2010 at 6:25:09 AM

There's a reason why Kimi Ni Todoke was the best anime of the Fall 2009 season.

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AckSed Pat. St. of Archive Binge from Pure Imagination Since: Jan, 2001
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#69: Jan 24th 2010 at 6:47:19 AM

I flagged Ume Kurumi as trouble from the get-go.

What I find strange and a little sad about this anime is that it's educational for me. Did you ever hear of teenage boys reading shojo to learn about relationships? That's what this anime is doing for me,but it's also teaching me what the subtle little eye movements,voice stresses and meaningful pauses mean. Even (gods help me) how you know you've got a friend.

And now it's helping me to recognise the insincere ones. As my Aspergers book said,"Not everyone who is nice to me is my friend."

I know it's fictional and a caricature,but it's helping.

EDIT:wild mass guessSawako has Aspergers Syndromewild mass guess

edited 24th Jan '10 6:53:25 AM by AckSed

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Mapi "keionbu ni yokusou, nyan?" from Sakurakou Keionbu Since: Aug, 2011
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Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#71: Jan 24th 2010 at 7:05:43 AM

Hmm, I'm probably in a different position, since I'm not exactly autistic (or so I think wild mass guess), but watching this, I noticed a couple of the things I've learned recently, and also a couple lessons about... well, how to be a nice person, I guess. But what really got to me was the bit about how Kazehaya described Sawako in episode 15... I had to pause and think for a moment, there.

Sporkaganza I'm glasses. Since: May, 2009
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#72: Jan 24th 2010 at 8:57:52 AM

@Mapi: Pin/Anyone = best crack pairing.

Always, somewhere, someone is fighting for you. As long as you remember them, you are not alone.
Sneeb super sugoi kawaii neko desuas from poo world (aka tvtropes) Since: Jan, 2001
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#73: Jan 24th 2010 at 12:45:11 PM

Not terribly sad, no. You make do with what you have. you don't have an easy time coming to understand people's emotions and you're trying to. This anime, with all of the stylistic exaggerations of facial features, focuses on human relationships and how the main character tries to make them work. I'm rather touched that you're able to do so, really.

Perhaps its just my humanist sensibilities mingling with my inner idealist, but I find people finding their own way to happiness really comforting.

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AckSed Pat. St. of Archive Binge from Pure Imagination Since: Jan, 2001
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#74: Jan 24th 2010 at 2:02:52 PM

Thank you. I'm still trying to map my own feelings as well.

edited 24th Jan '10 2:37:45 PM by AckSed

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ShayGuy Since: Jan, 2001
#75: Jan 24th 2010 at 11:38:27 PM

Mapi, that's the third time you've cited that trope in this thread.


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