Okay, but again, for the one in charge of the engineering unit, what rank does he or she have to be in?
Also, 'd.
edited 13th Aug '17 12:44:34 PM by HallowHawk
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engineering_officer_(ship)
This may help, but as it seems, you need to be a trained officer to be anywhere near the machinery of a submarine.
So this means it is practically out of reach of the likes of Private Snuffy.
Inter arma enim silent legesDo subs indulge in oceanography?
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.BBC: Descendants of the Sun: the Korean military romance sweeping Asia
"This show satisfies all my fantasies," 35-year-old Beijing fan Ms Dai tells the BBC. "It reminds me of the feeling you have in a romantic relationship."
Seoul's latest offering chronicles the star-crossed relationship between a soldier and surgeon. It has won millions of fans across the region, but also caused alarm from some authorities.
Love is a battlefield
The 16-episode show began airing on South Korean television in February. It is also being simulcast online in China and streamed on other websites - not always legally - watched by South East Asian fans.
It has all the familiar ingredients of a K-drama: a convoluted plot, A-list actors and an exotic location - in this case Greece, standing in as the fictional war-torn Mediterranean country Uruk.
But one unique feature of Descendants of the Sun is its military setting - it is often not fate that gets in the way of the main characters' happiness, but the urgencies of war.
The show is mostly set in Uruk where a special forces captain played by Song Joong-ki juggles peacekeeping duties with wooing an army surgeon played by Song Hye-kyo - rather inconveniently, he often has to leave her at crucial moments to save lives or go on mysterious missions.
"The surgeon is a woman with a First World problem in a five-star package. She has a mystery man who is totally into her but who keeps leaving. Yet the drama also keeps reuniting them in airbrushed, beautified real-world circumstances," was how one Singaporean newspaper review summed up its premise.
The military theme has resonated because the armed forces play a big part in South Korean society, with the constant looming threat of war with the North, and where conscription is mandatory for male citizens.
An editorial carried by the Chinese Communist Party mouthpiece People's Daily praised it as "an excellent advertisement for conscription" showcasing South Korea's "national spirit" and "communitarian culture", and suggested China create a similar soap opera.
International appeal
At home, the drama has broken viewership records and won plaudits from even the likes of President Park Geun-hye, who said it could help spread South Korean culture and boost tourism.
What fans are saying
"The military theme does not appear frequently in TV shows so combined with the romantic theme, this is not like other Korean soap operas," - Ms Gao, 24, Beijing resident
"Unlike most Korean dramas which are about a rich guy who falls in love with a poor, golden-hearted girl, the story feels more like the love story of two evenly-matched adults." - Chen Yuanni, 32, Beijing resident
"(Song Joong-ki) is very good looking with a boyish look. In real life a captain must shoulder a lot of burden and would look older." - Prayuth Chan-ocha, prime minister of Thailand
The city of Taekbaek, where some of the filming took place, is now planning to rebuild the film set because of intense interest from tourists, reports the Korea Times.
But its main fan base lies overseas, particularly China, where so far it has been viewed more than 440 million times on popular video-streaming site iQiyi.com. China has strict rules on broadcasting foreign dramas, but relaxed them for Descendants of the Sun, whose production was reportedly partly funded by Chinese investors.
It was a move seen by some as a sign of warming relations with South Korea, though others have pointed out that one scene depicting a fight with North Korea - China's ally - was censored in the Chinese broadcast.
Even Thailand's Prime Minister Prayuth Chan-ocha - an army general who took power in a military coup - is a fan, urging his countrymen last week to watch it as it promotes "patriotism, sacrifice, obeying orders and being a dutiful citizen".
The show has been sold to 27 countries including the UK and translated into 32 different languages, according to South Korea's Yonhap news agency.
But fandom has its costs. There were panicky reports in Chinese media earlier this month of a woman who nearly went blind binge-watching the show and another drama, when her 18-hour marathon session triggered acute glaucoma.
Chinese authorities have warned of the dangers of watching Korean dramas, which it said could lead to marital trouble and criminal behaviour.
Earlier this month, Chinese tabloids carried a bizarre story of a young man who was so jealous of his wife's obsession with Song Joong-ki that one night he drunkenly stormed into a photography studio and demanded that the shop owner take pictures to "make him look like Song". The owner eventually called the police.
China's public security ministry highlighted this incident in an advisory on its Weibo social media account two weeks ago.
"When chasing male or female stars, do not become too infatuated with them. Because sometimes your casual words could end up hurting those who really care for you," it said.
It also cautioned citizens against imitating the more melodramatic aspects of K-dramas, such as "forcibly kissing women" and slapping one another during lovers' tiffs.
"This sort of behaviour may seem romantic, but this kind of romance is not acceptable to everyone... it becomes wrong when you justify criminal behaviour as romance," it said.
In the latest episode, the show's protagonists temporarily put aside their romantic angst to fend off the twin threats of a villainous arms dealer and a viral disease spreading through the barracks.
Will love overcome all? Come 14 April, the day the finale will air, millions across Asia will be tuning in to find out.
Special emphasis on the CCP's praise of the show being "an excellent advertisement for conscription" showcasing South Korea's "national spirit" and "communitarian culture".
Oh, what dRoy would have to say about this . . .
Because of course that's what the CCP would get out of it.
Disgusted, but not surprised"When chasing male or female stars, do not become too infatuated with them"
Bieber jealousy syndrome?
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.When Tomi Lahren Questioned If Millennials Were Ready For The Military, Twitter Had The Facts
Fun fact: Millennials are more or less defined as being the generation who have spent most, if not all, of their adult lives at war. To borrow from Max Uriarte, ours is a generation of war. Miss Lahren might know that if she hadn't made the conscious decision to sit it out on the sidelines.
And of course she responded with a lame "Just Joking" Justification. Then she doubled down on her initial tweet.
What an awful, stupid person.
Disgusted, but not surprisedThe young lady can go fuck herself. It'd probably do her some good.
I'm kind of wondering what her reaction would be to being drafted. She is aware that women can serve in the military now, right? And that if we get to the point where a draft is needed, women may not necessarily be excluded?
edited 17th Aug '17 6:16:03 PM by M84
Disgusted, but not surprisedDid someone mention Descendents of the Sun?
-rages-
-settles down-
Phew. I hate that show because of its romanticizing the Korean Army.
One of the most effective ways to piss off Korean males who are either serving or have served in the army is saying something along the line of "I've seen X and the army doesn't sound so bad." Well, after that show women seem to say that more often.
Let's put it this way: that show is basically what Twilight is to vampires. Yes. THAT horrible. But hey, being a shitty work didn't stop Twilight series from being a massive international hit, so...there's that. -shrugs-
I'm a (socialist) professional writer serializing a WWII alternate history webnovel.(Cross-posted from the Navy thread)
USS Fitzgerald Command Triad Removed Following Early Investigation Results; More Punishments Coming
Maybe this is more accurate?
Cross Posting from the History Thread
I'm betting on Trump citing WWII German counter-insurgency tactics as more effective than modern day ones "limited" and "restrained" by those pesky rules of engagement. This sentiment has been spread more than anything else Devil's Guard, a controversial 1972 book infamous for its popularity among US troops during the Iraq War that claims to be the edited memoir of a Waffen-SS trooper who eventually served with the French Foreign Legion in Indochina. As what one would expect, it has a strong fanbase among neo-Nazis.
Well would you look at that. SEAL Team Six, our most notorious Spec Ops today was obsessed and affiliated with this garbage.
To top it off the US Military had course effectively teaching atomic genocide in the Middle East and other charming extremist thought. Pointed that out a while back and was thoroughly dismayed.
Cited from that article. A long read on the many problems of the team.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13002734860A72200100&page=315#7856 My post on the history thread that brought this about.]] It is about the Pershing killing muslms with pigs somehow myth.
edited 19th Aug '17 5:54:11 AM by TuefelHundenIV
Who watches the watchmen?Considering the French connection, it's probably related to the systematic use of torture and brutality during the Algerian War and the Indochina Wars. May have also been an inspiration to the Phoenix Program, but I don't know whether this is true.
Si Vis Pacem, Para PerkeleIt is pretty darkly funny that the French wrote the book on counterinsurgency based on a war they would eventually lose.
Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.Billionaire Paul Allen Finds Lost World War II Cruiser USS Indianapolis in the Philippine Sea
Paul Allen, Microsoft co-founder and billionaire philanthropist, led a search team, assisted by historians from the Naval History and Heritage Command (NHHC) in Washington, D.C., to accomplish what past searches had failed to do – find Indianapolis, considered the last great naval tragedy of World War II.
“To be able to honor the brave men of the USS Indianapolis and their families through the discovery of a ship that played such a significant role in ending World War II is truly humbling,” said Allen in a statement provided to USNI News on Saturday. “As Americans, we all owe a debt of gratitude to the crew for their courage, persistence and sacrifice in the face of horrendous circumstances. While our search for the rest of the wreckage will continue, I hope everyone connected to this historic ship will feel some measure of closure at this discovery so long in coming.”
On July 30, 1945, what turned out to be the final days of World War II, Indianapolis had just completed a secret mission to the island Tinian, delivering components of the atomic bomb “Little Boy” dropped on Hiroshima which would ultimately help end the war. The ship sunk in 12 minutes, before a distress signal could be sent or much of the life-saving equipment was deployed, according to a statement from the Naval History and Heritage Command in Washington, D.C. Because of the secrecy surrounding the mission, the ship wasn’t listed as overdue
Around 800 of the ship’s 1,196 sailors and Marines survived the sinking, but after four to five days in the water, suffering exposure, dehydration, drowning, and shark attacks, only 316 survived.
Two wars: Indochina and Algeria.
And, you know, every other colony they lost, and their loss of the Napoleonic conquests, and their failures to keep control of Italy and Flanders and Western Germany...
But those two stand out.
The only time French counterinsurgency worked for good, is when William the Conqueror took England. It was horrific.
edited 19th Aug '17 4:11:00 PM by TheHandle
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.The Harrowing of the North. The conquering of Wales and the attempts to smother Welsh language and culture. The repeated attempts to push into Scotland and Ireland (variable success — not looking at you, John Lackland, you utter prat and one of the major reasons why the Irish Question was a thing for centuries).
Yup. Dead terrific... in every possible sense of the word, including "state-sponsored terrorism before it was called that".
US Destroyer collides with merchant vessel in South China Sea (yes, again)
The collision was reported at 6:24 a.m. Japan Standard Time, while the ship was transiting to a routine port visit in Singapore.
Initial reports indicate John S. Mc Cain sustained damage to her port side aft.
Search and rescue efforts are underway in coordination with local authorities.
So...what the actual fuck is going on??
New Survey coming this weekend!TBF, twice isn't really indicative of a trend.
Now if it happens a third time in the next month or so...
Disgusted, but not surprisedWhat's the old saying...? "Once is an accident; twice is a coincidence; three times is a conspiracy."
This Space Intentionally Left Blank.War games in South Korea is starting already. China/Russia want them to be stoppped but the US refuses since there's no guarantee that North Korea will agree to negotiate.
Given the fact that both recent collisions have occurred in the early morning hours, methinks that the some of the officers on watch must have been less than fully conscious . . .
My dad was reeeeeeeeeally aggressively accosted by the Army officials when he was being drafted. Mostly because he had his conscription date delayed so he could finish engineering school, and the Army always needs more engineers.
Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.