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SilentColossus (Old as dirt)
#1776: Aug 30th 2014 at 10:58:09 AM

edited 30th Aug '14 11:24:31 AM by SilentColossus

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#1777: Aug 30th 2014 at 12:26:09 PM

At least my Clem didn't shoot Lee and just escaped.

lancesolous13 from California Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
#1778: Aug 30th 2014 at 1:22:04 PM

[up]TBH, I'd prefer it if she DID shoot him (putting him out of the misery of hours of dying and making sure he doesn't hurt anyone), but the Clem in my game didn't shoot him. I love the fact that she can choose for herself in that moment because it can be interpreted in so many ways.

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Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
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#1779: Aug 30th 2014 at 1:23:23 PM

I prefer the ending where she just leaves because it feels like it flows better to me.

I don't know. I'm not a fan of "Gunshot fade-to-black" endings in general, so that didn't really resonate with me as much.

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lancesolous13 from California Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
#1780: Aug 30th 2014 at 1:48:58 PM

[up]For me, at least, I feel like it shows a lot about her character. My interpretation is that she, for all she knows that Lee is dying and will turn and kill people, she can't bring herself to shoot her best friend.

And I think that's so tragic on so many levels.

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SilentColossus (Old as dirt)
#1781: Aug 30th 2014 at 6:24:34 PM

I told her to shoot Lee. You need to be able to kill your loved ones in this world.

SomeName Person Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#1782: Aug 30th 2014 at 6:58:43 PM

Not sure I'm really up for a third season; partly because of my end choices, this entire season felt like it just ended up building to the most depressing place possible. It's also hard to get attached the characters anymore, considering that literally character other than Clem from the first episode actually appeared later.

I spent nearly all of two seasons trying to keep the various groups stable, so the characters outright turning on each other in this one really hit hard. First, Bonnie blaming me for Luke's death was a bunch of crap. Running out to someone on this ice to help is a bad plan; he was better off dragging himself away while lying flat. I was borderline ready to shoot her and Mike when it came up that they were stealing all of the supplies from the group with the child and the baby.

I'd treated Kenny as a close friend throughout the whole season, and in this episode that meant trying to get through to him before he did something bad enough to force my hand against him. Guess how that turned out? So, yeah, basically the culmination of two seasons of trying to keep the peace and foster relationships was everyone violently turning on each other, Clem shooting her closest friend, and then finally choosing to abandon the only person she had left. The story is basically one of the protagonist giving up on dealing with other people.

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Robotnik Since: Aug, 2011
#1783: Aug 30th 2014 at 7:16:52 PM

The way I saw it, it came down to who I would rather be alone with for an extended period of time, if either. I chose Jane. She's obviously not entirely trustworthy and I can see her running off if things get bad enough, but that's still infinitely better than being Kenny's crutch and punching bag whenever he's feeling pissy.

On an unrelated note, I don't think calling Jane a Suspiciously Similar Substitute of Molly is really fair. Jane may not exactly be more likeable, but from the get-go she's far more approachable and less surly.

SilentColossus (Old as dirt)
#1784: Aug 30th 2014 at 7:22:35 PM

Jane running off is not really the problem. It's the emotional manipulation. Abuse isn't just about being loud and violent - its also about doing horrible things and saying it was for your own good. I mean, "I can't do this without you!" is essentially how an abusive individual guilt trips people, like Jane does if you leave her. As I said, both Kenny and Jane have elements of Carver. I prefer Kenny to Jane, but I still rather go to Wellington. I was also admittedly spoiled about the Wellington ending, so I might have made a different choice if I didn't know about it. I probably would have ended up on my own, and I've actually been thinking about redoing the ending.

edited 30th Aug '14 7:28:00 PM by SilentColossus

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#1785: Aug 30th 2014 at 7:29:34 PM

And that's why when I found out what would have happened if I did shoot Kenny and then Jane would have revealed that AJ was alive, I probably would have left her too. As I noted, its basically boiled down to two people willing to kill another for someone else. And I don't take that lightly. At least I got a nice farewell to Kenny, who I once liked.

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Robotnik Since: Aug, 2011
#1786: Aug 30th 2014 at 7:30:42 PM

[up][up] That's fair, but I have more time to get sick of that; Kenny's been an ass since the second episode of Season 1, depending on how you play.

edited 30th Aug '14 7:31:01 PM by Robotnik

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
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#1788: Aug 30th 2014 at 7:35:31 PM

Yeah. But he was my ass.

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SilentlyHonest Since: Oct, 2011
#1789: Aug 30th 2014 at 7:36:08 PM

Your ass is hairy and has one eye huh?

Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
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#1790: Aug 30th 2014 at 7:36:30 PM

Yes.

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SilentlyHonest Since: Oct, 2011
#1791: Aug 30th 2014 at 7:37:14 PM

I guess that explains all of the shit that came out him.

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#1792: Aug 30th 2014 at 7:43:28 PM

I believe I had Lee say at one point, "He was an asshole, but I agreed with him a lot of the time, so we were assholes together."

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Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
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#1793: Aug 30th 2014 at 7:45:41 PM

Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking of.

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AnotherGuy Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#1794: Aug 31st 2014 at 3:10:30 PM

You do know that Kenny was one moment away from putting a serious hurt on Clem, don't you? His little "just because you're 10 doesn't mean you will get away with me beating you like a pinata" speech...

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#1795: Aug 31st 2014 at 6:35:26 PM

Kenny was always a short fuse, that's why I'd feel more comfortable with killing him at the end.

Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
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#1796: Aug 31st 2014 at 6:39:24 PM

That's my opinion too. But dammit you can't spend that much time with someone and go through so much stuff together and not get choked up if you have to put them down.

edited 31st Aug '14 6:40:03 PM by Spirit

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#1797: Sep 1st 2014 at 6:38:04 AM

Sad ending for sure. I chose to stick with the girl for the whole "better chance at survival" thing.

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edited 7th Sep '14 11:56:37 AM by vincejja

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#1798: Sep 1st 2014 at 7:44:59 AM

I can just see Clem and Kenny meeting a new group of people. We all know how the conversation would go.

Kenny: I'm new but I'm makin' ALL the decisions.

Survivor: But you just got here.

Kenny: My way or the highway!

Survivor: Uh, no.

Kenny: That's it. You're on my shit list and if a walker attacks you, I'll stand back and giggle. Or stab you.

edited 1st Sep '14 8:55:39 AM by AnotherGuy

Robotnik Since: Aug, 2011
#1799: Sep 2nd 2014 at 10:42:38 AM

I've been replaying Season 1 on the iPad, and has anyone else gotten a possible glitch where if you save Doug, help Kenny kill Larry, and leave Lilly after she shoots him, the game skips the scene where she reveals Lee's secret and just cuts to everyone getting on the RV and driving off?

deviantbraeburn Wandering Jew from Dysfunctional California Since: Aug, 2012
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#1800: Sep 6th 2014 at 11:33:11 PM

Personally I liked the finale. The climactic final battle between Jane and Kenny was a nice way to finish the Season off. And I liked how morally ambiguous the situation was, since there was no clear "good guy" or "bad guy".

My only complaint is that I didn't like how Bonnie was willing to leave Clementine stranded. I get why Mike did it since he didn't really ever bond with Clem, and he seemed to stick up for Arvo more than anybody else. But Bonnie had a real connection to Clem and it felt that the game just needed to get rid of her so Jane and Kenny could have their face off.

On an unrelated note, I don't think calling Jane a Suspiciously Similar Substitute of Molly is really fair.

I always saw Jane a a more realistic version of Molly.

edited 6th Sep '14 11:45:52 PM by deviantbraeburn

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