Dragon Ball Z Abridged

Who is Padlove anyway?

I was already a fan of Steven Universe but I liked that bit. It's been mentioned more than once that Kaiser Neko is a big fan of the show.

Assuming you mean Pavlov (I think that's how you spell it?) He was a Russian scientist who worked with dogs evoking responses with them and stuff. I'm not good at describing it.

edited 5th Feb '16 5:42:28 PM by LSBK

Pavlov is a person who made a theory about obedience and it was true.

He rang a bell every time he fed a dog, eventually he rang the bell without feeding the dog and the dog still slobbered, expecting food.

His wikipedia page if interested further.

edited 5th Feb '16 5:57:10 PM by stingerbrg

When Revival of F came out I remember someone here saying that Frieza spent his five months training in a black hole. Now this information isn't presented anywhere in the movie, but I'm wondering if it's mentioned in the story arc in Dragonball Super. Where does the black hole part even come from?

Just a rumor to justify Freeza's ridiculous gains.

It shows a lack of understanding of Black holes.

time dilation is a massive thing with black holes. So 5 months in a black hole would probably be a few seconds.

Considering dying in a black hole is being torn apart atom by atom, it's a incredibly slow process but you don't know that.

What would five months in real time amount to in a black hole?

Sounds like a stupidly awesome idea for Training from Hell in a series where children generate laser beams from their palms, just by watching old men do it.

edited 5th Feb '16 7:11:51 PM by Soble

Tobias was the one who brought up the "Black Hole Training" theory.

The time dilation could have made that whole thing hilarious, though. Like if say Freeza was revived earlier and went into the black hole to train because the intense gravity would make it extremely efficient but then he comes out and so much time has passed outside that the others have already caught up.

Well, depending on if you go by D7 I guess.

If 1996 is "new", then sure.

edited 6th Feb '16 4:14:17 AM by Saiga

That 4 months should've been like 4 years in universe, but he really only needed 4 days of training.

Seeing how insignificant the passage of time was.

Does Frieza know how long a month is?

I was?

I remember saying it seems like the ultimate extension of the Gravity Training concept, but I don't remember coming up with it.

You're right, that would be hilarious.

Oh it would have!

Sometimes using actual physics is funnier than going for silly fiction physics.

Or horrifying and sad if you get down to it. Been watching Stargate SG 1 and man what happened to SG 10 was sad.

But anyways back to Dragon Ball. Think they'll reference Time Dilation if they ever do Frieza training in a black hole?

Gah, now you have me thinking about physics.

Like, instead of surviving and making it to Yardrat, Goku could have died in Namek's explosion and been revived on Earth before the light of the planet's destruction ever reached Earth. He could actually watch the brilliant flash of his own demise. That's strangely beautiful.

edited 6th Feb '16 7:08:50 AM by TobiasDrake

I think Namek is probably a lot of lightyears away. So he probably wouldn't have lived to see it.

Well , in that case, he wouldn't have lived to reach Namek in the first place. And Freeza wouldn't have been able to build an interplanetary empire. The real strongest killer in the universe is time and distance.

edited 6th Feb '16 7:17:16 AM by Enlong

I think spaceships are just really really fast. Much faster than light is.

Which is impossible, but. Ehh.

edited 6th Feb '16 7:19:50 AM by unnoun

I'm willing to believe a lot in fiction, so long as it's consistent.

Magic Wish granting dragon opens up a lot of opportunity.

You've talked about it in the most detailed way possible, so it's really hard to remember anyone else bringing up the theory.

I remember someone working out that Kami's old ship had to be at least 200 times the speed of light for it to go from Earth to Jupiter at the speed it did.

They probably should've had Freeza get wished back in between the Cell and Buu Sagas or something, and then have been training ever since. It's not like there was anything going on during that time for them to contradict canon-wise, especially since they just sneak onto the planet, make the wish and hightail it.

Though I suppose they couldn't do that and keep Young Pilaf and co. as the ones who helped Sorbet.

edited 6th Feb '16 11:52:44 AM by KnownUnknown

Actually, they probably could. I mean, it's not important what age they were when they made the wish. Only that they are kids now.

As for having Frieza brought back between arcs, I don't think Frieza is patient enough to take the necessary amount of time to take his revenge. He only trained for 4 months, rushed off to fight as soon as it was done, and...

Well, he shouldn't have even been worried about revenge in the first place. I mean, if he'd just gone back to ruling his empire, who would've stopped him, since Goku wouldn't even realize he was alive....well, maybe King Kai would have told him, but frieza has no way to know about him.

Also, Toriyama only brought back Frieza because he was popular, and had clearly never considered reviving him before considering his by the seat of his pants writing style.