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Hydrall 「MENACING」 from Dio's Mansion, Cairo Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
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#1051: Dec 9th 2010 at 6:22:05 PM

It doesn't move forward or backwards, though.

ch00beh ??? from Who Knows Where Since: Jul, 2010
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#1052: Dec 9th 2010 at 6:27:55 PM

So my maze is absolutely devastating.

Enemies are funneled and forced to zig zag, about 10 times across at least 10 tiles each lap, with five catapults firing at them the entire time. That's not the deadly part. There are only two traps on it near the end, one with 5 copper corkscrews and 5 copper serrated discs, the other with 10 weapons I picked up from everyone dying. Those also aren't the deadly part.

Really, all those are just a distraction to force a dodge or to throw the enemy back because two levels below the maze is a pool of drainable magma. There's so much iron down there and no other crappy crap.

Oh yeah, there are also a bunch of cage traps, and I dug out another pit of death.

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#1053: Dec 9th 2010 at 6:28:37 PM

@Tueful: Yes, whips are blunt weapons so their damage is affected by mass.

[up]So the flying functions more like a moat than anything else?

TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#1054: Dec 9th 2010 at 7:20:35 PM

Bizarre.

I like your death maze already. I read a suggestion that has a two tiered maze filled with traps you open and close doors to keep the enemy pathing through the traps. When they are all dead you open it all up and let your dwarves go harvest your gains.

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ch00beh ??? from Who Knows Where Since: Jul, 2010
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#1055: Dec 9th 2010 at 7:27:07 PM

The main problem with the death maze is that when I send my militia in to take care of stragglers and/or chase off a horde, they run a very real risk of dodging into the fire. I've lost two dwarves so far, and somehow when I was pitting a goblin that refused to die in my sparta-pit, a mother and child fell in too.

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TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#1056: Dec 9th 2010 at 7:33:57 PM

Yeah. I use my burrows until the invaders/raiders are dead or are retreating. My poor military dwarves lost a comrade to an ambush. :( My wife was playing the fort in our succession game and was running off some ambushers that refused to get caught in the traps or walk on the bridge death traps that lead to the fall onto some upright spikes. It used to house some tame grizzlies and cougars though. (I have a named a Grizzly and a named cougar from that use :3

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Hydrall 「MENACING」 from Dio's Mansion, Cairo Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
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#1057: Dec 9th 2010 at 7:43:08 PM

I build a long, three or two block wide corridor leading to a massive circular room as my entrance. Every square in the corridor is (in a good fortress) filled to the brim with weapon or cage traps, and a ballista at the end.

Simple, but effective in my opinion.

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#1058: Dec 9th 2010 at 7:55:27 PM

Must be a hell of a commute; deathtrap, deathtrap, deatht-oh, booze!

Can you build retractable guards over the pits for when you militia enter? Grates or bridges or retractable bars?

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Hydrall 「MENACING」 from Dio's Mansion, Cairo Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
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#1059: Dec 9th 2010 at 8:00:45 PM

>Implying my dorfs will ever go outside.

Not once the damn tower-cap farm is complete they won't.

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#1060: Dec 9th 2010 at 8:13:19 PM

Hah, for a moment I Read That As "every square in the fortress is covered in traps.

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TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#1062: Dec 9th 2010 at 8:32:35 PM

Doc Rock. I like your avatar.

Chow yun fat right?

You can build retractable bridges over pits or as roofs. My entrance is a long straight wall that leads over a deep pit covered by the draw bridges and I plan to make it bigger and line the bottom completely with upright spikes :3 I have found enemies can survive a 5 z level drop fairly well. I wonder could they survive a 10 z level drop? Yeah that will show the bastards.

Ok I am now tempted to learn to mod to make a fire breathing trap.

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#1063: Dec 9th 2010 at 9:18:40 PM

Yeah, haven't used it in a while, it's from A Better Tomorrow. Now I'm picturing a dwarf going Guns Akimbo...

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TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#1064: Dec 9th 2010 at 11:08:07 PM

I thought that shot looked familiar. I already own Hard Boiled I want a better tomorrow.

Dwarf fortress does hard boiled.

Give a dwarf a crossbow he is super man. Give him two and he is god.

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ch00beh ??? from Who Knows Where Since: Jul, 2010
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#1065: Dec 10th 2010 at 2:49:29 AM

Hm. Retractable bridges is a pretty great idea. Looks like I need to churn out more mechanisms.

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#1066: Dec 10th 2010 at 3:47:12 AM

They are very handy things. I use them to pull the rug out from under enemies for a giggle. I am planning a catapult kind of thing where I use multiple bridges to randomly fling enemies around. Or I could just use the suggestion of building a support and attach a floor tile on top and one over that and either attach it to a switch or pressure plat. DF landmine. Might make an interesting test of traps. things can pass through supports right?

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ch00beh ??? from Who Knows Where Since: Jul, 2010
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#1067: Dec 10th 2010 at 4:06:40 AM

yup

everyone in my fortress is so social it's ridiculous. every time one person dies, like 50 people get pissed off.

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#1068: Dec 10th 2010 at 4:31:11 AM

Poor Poor Ch00beh. That is why I keep them as busy as possible. Anyone not working gets to haul rocks. Well not all of them I do let them have breaks.

edited 10th Dec '10 4:31:25 AM by TuefelHundenIV

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ch00beh ??? from Who Knows Where Since: Jul, 2010
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#1069: Dec 10th 2010 at 5:17:51 AM

It's ok. I have this bad boy.

While I work on my paper, I'll be having retractable bridges built and I'll have the buffer zone get better at being a buffer and potential shooting place. Magma is not below because I was draining it to get to the delicious goblinite.

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#1070: Dec 10th 2010 at 11:39:25 AM

I thought iron stuff melted in magma?

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#1071: Dec 10th 2010 at 5:53:41 PM

If I said I wanted to split the page up into tropes that apply to the game in general, ones specific to fortress mode, and ones specific to adventure mode, would anyone else help me?

edited 10th Dec '10 5:54:11 PM by thatother1dude

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#1072: Dec 10th 2010 at 6:33:52 PM

Hmm I could lend a hand just set up the subpages and we can help you sort the various tropes. that page is pretty trope heavy.

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ch00beh ??? from Who Knows Where Since: Jul, 2010
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#1073: Dec 10th 2010 at 6:41:31 PM

Iron melts in magma if you give it enough time. Alternatively, you flash fry.

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#1074: Dec 10th 2010 at 6:43:38 PM

So drop them in and then drain the magma away then.

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DrRockopolis Rock On from Barsoom Since: Sep, 2009
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#1075: Dec 10th 2010 at 6:45:27 PM

Wasn't there something about things getting a dangerous magma coating or gaining and not later losing temperature?

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