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SBaneN The True Shane from Somewhere calm Since: Nov, 2012
The True Shane
#5726: Dec 27th 2012 at 6:22:35 AM

That would be awesome. Or something insane and evil:

  • Castle is built with a roof that has many traps
  • Goblins and kobolds appear
  • Castle sinks into the ground
  • Goblins and kobolds are unable to find a way in
  • Goblins and kobolds are Too Dumb to Live and walk onto roof
  • Dwarf pulls lever that activates the spike traps or opens a floodgate that floods the fortress roof with lava/magma.

... With great ideas come great chaos, I guess.

(This post will probably reveal the truth.)
Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland Since: Nov, 2010
Overlording the Underworld
#5727: Dec 27th 2012 at 2:45:18 PM

If you're going to play with lva on your roof, you need to make sure you can break the rock it dries into. Unless you're going to quickly resurface.

Hydrall 「MENACING」 from Dio's Mansion, Cairo Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
「MENACING」
TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
Night Clerk of the Apacalypse.
#5729: Dec 27th 2012 at 8:11:55 PM

This has a lot of great potential for entry control and channeling as well.

Who watches the watchmen?
zsmg Since: Jul, 2011
#5730: Dec 28th 2012 at 4:25:11 AM

So I started playing this, using the Ironhand skins and Dwarven therapist to make the game more user friendly. I'm also following the quick start guide at the DF wiki which is really helpful.

It's currently summer and I still haven't gotten any trade caravans nor any immigrants is this normal? Also North East of my caravan point there a bunch of goblins with some items so far they haven't done any thing should I be worried about them? (I'm guessing that's going to be a yes)

Anyway the game is very overwhelming so far and I only have scratched the surface. :\

Besserwisser from Planet of Hats Since: Dec, 2009
#5731: Dec 28th 2012 at 4:51:02 AM

The first caravan arrives in autumn, next year you will have elves in spring and humans in summer normally.

zsmg Since: Jul, 2011
#5732: Dec 28th 2012 at 11:25:31 AM

[up] Yup they arrived.

Anyway a year has passed, my small fortress is thriving found some gold and silver (no iron :\ ) those goblins I talked about in my previous post are in fact my protectors killing two kobold raids for me while I closed off my entrance.

I drained a small lake so that I could use it as a water source for my planned underground hospital. It was going well (except for the fact the water ended up being muddy :( ) when I received a message saying "Migrants have arrived"

Welcoming an handful new users won't be so bad, I finally be able to specialize some more dwarves. So I checked in Dwarf therapist how many Dwarves would be arriving. The population of my Fortress went from 17 to... 62. STOP OVERWHELMING ME! :(

Lanceleoghauni Cyborg Helmsman from Z or R Twice Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In my bunk
#5733: Dec 28th 2012 at 6:30:46 PM

and now you see why many players kill useless immigrants, only keeping the skilled ones.

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NESgamer190 Hello! from a NES cartridge Since: Sep, 2012
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#5734: Dec 28th 2012 at 7:11:55 PM

I know I'm being a dopey individual, but given a fortress I'm working on, it's now summer of year 1, the workshops aren't 100% ready (at least 1 of every available workshop), but the farm plots underground are workin'. Currently working on some 3x3 bedrooms for the inevitable migrant swarm to 100 from 20 or so. (Finagle's Law dictates it might happen.)

A few dope questions I'm likely about to ask (to get to know some of the dwarven players)...

  • Bedroom size you usually go for (As well as garnishings if any)?
  • Preferred embark?
  • Most hated obstacle?

To answer my own questions:

  • 3x3 bedrooms with a chest, cabinet, table, chair, and statue of the dwarf if possible.
  • Usually volcanoes, but anywhere where I could get flux and bituminous coal or flux and lava or something like that.
  • Aquifers... the evilest things!

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Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland Since: Nov, 2010
Overlording the Underworld
#5735: Dec 28th 2012 at 7:22:09 PM

1x2 the way I was taught. Just a bed and a door, the spartan way. Nobles shall get 1x3. The third is a flood gate.

I look for clay and deep and shallow metals. Forests are prefered.

My own lack of skill currently.

Actually, about nobles, I think I'll do it the India way. Well, sorta. They built a hollow bed covering a hole, and someone hit a switch so the bed opened and dropped an "invited guest" into a pungee pit. I'll just drop the whole bed into an oubliet and be done with it. Preferably with an Untamed Cave Dragon inside.

edited 28th Dec '12 7:26:30 PM by Journeyman

Hydrall 「MENACING」 from Dio's Mansion, Cairo Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
「MENACING」
#5736: Dec 28th 2012 at 7:24:34 PM

Mine are as follows:

  • 2x3 or 3x2, since squares are boring.
  • Usually mountains with rivers and no aquifers. I prefer building my fortresses into natural curves of mountains, so I can wall off an area and have an external part to the fort.
  • My own forgetfulness.

Lanceleoghauni Cyborg Helmsman from Z or R Twice Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In my bunk
#5737: Dec 28th 2012 at 10:22:48 PM

Aquifers are fucking BOSS.

they are, hands down, one of the most useful things ever. not having played in awhile, I didn't build my current fort on one, because I didn't want to start in an evil biome AND with an aquifer, hahaha.

Seriously, so handy for powerplants.

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ch00beh ??? from Who Knows Where Since: Jul, 2010
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#5738: Dec 29th 2012 at 1:51:50 AM

1x2 bedrooms with a bed and a door, or if I'm feeling fancy, a hatch such that the room is built into the ceiling/floor of the hallway.

I prefer volcanos for infinite magma to make traps. The free smelting is just a plus. Ideally I'd get a river, too, but I prefer easy magma immediately over all else.

As for obstacles, I hate deep aquifers. Shallow aquifers I find super useful, but they're never shallow.

Bonus answer: when I get a bajillion immigrants, I immediately mark anyone with useless skills with a "soldier" designation and turn everything off on them but hauling, detailing, and stone building for making walls/floors. Then I immediately get them to start polishing every square inch of my fortress, and every other month they take a break from that to go train in a danger room to become legendary warriors. Once they're legendary, they pretty much don't care about comforts.

edited 29th Dec '12 1:54:11 AM by ch00beh

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#5739: Dec 29th 2012 at 6:16:43 PM

How do you find a volcano site? Never figured it out.

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ch00beh ??? from Who Knows Where Since: Jul, 2010
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#5740: Dec 29th 2012 at 6:29:19 PM

they're represented as a red ^

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thatother1dude Ready to see true darkness from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
Ready to see true darkness
#5741: Dec 29th 2012 at 10:52:56 PM

OK, this is still confusing me: in the image macro the work page's image caption is based on, what does the "Can you dig? Hell no!" part mean?

edited 29th Dec '12 10:53:02 PM by thatother1dude

Hydrall 「MENACING」 from Dio's Mansion, Cairo Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
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fishsicles An Ex-Troper from Down The Curtain Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
An Ex-Troper
#5743: Dec 30th 2012 at 7:31:08 AM

Through solid rock, with nothing but a pickaxe?

Not nearly a good enough singer for the Choir Invisible, and the Basement Room With A Synth Invisible is much less prestigious.
FuzzyBoots from Outlying borough of Pittsburgh (there's a lot of Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
#5744: Dec 30th 2012 at 8:24:20 AM

[up][up][up][up] If I recall correctly, it only does so in the "mid-level" picture in the center when scanning sites. And, of course, you'll see a mention off to the right if there's a volcano, although depending on where you set your colony, there may or may not be an actual lava flow there (especially if you have a "technically mountain, but mostly meadow" type of site).

zsmg Since: Jul, 2011
#5745: Dec 31st 2012 at 4:24:49 AM

I've learned today that you need to close the flood gates when your reservoir is full or else water will come trough the wells and flood your residential area. :(

Damn and that game was going so well too. The only bad thing that happened before the flooding was that I got under attack by a were mole man.

ch00beh ??? from Who Knows Where Since: Jul, 2010
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#5746: Dec 31st 2012 at 10:06:13 AM

now I'm having memories of my best fort which died because clowns punched open my reservoir's flood gate, and that caused lag death. we'd even taken out half the circus by then :(

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SBaneN The True Shane from Somewhere calm Since: Nov, 2012
The True Shane
#5747: Dec 31st 2012 at 11:49:07 PM

NE Sgamer 190: Aquifers... the evilest things!
ch00beh: As for obstacles, I hate deep aquifers. Shallow aquifers I find super useful, but they're never shallow.

I kinda like aquifers, can't see what's wrong with them. Sure, they impede progress downwards, but it's possible to get around that. I always do. Somehow.

(This post will probably reveal the truth.)
Thnikkafan ? from Faroe Islands (not really) Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
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#5748: Jan 1st 2013 at 6:31:14 AM

The first thing that I do when I get a new version of DF is go into the raws and remove all the aquifers.

I can't stand them, and there's always aquifers on 90% of available sites. Unless they're removed, of course.

Anyone who assigns themselves loads of character tropes is someone to be worried about.
Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland Since: Nov, 2010
Overlording the Underworld
#5749: Jan 1st 2013 at 9:10:46 AM

And this is why you use the Embark Finder. You can actually check Aquifers to NO so you don't even run into them. Yes, it might disqualify a few entire worlds sometimes, but the wonderfully useful embarks you find are worth the deserted ones.

Lanceleoghauni Cyborg Helmsman from Z or R Twice Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In my bunk
#5750: Jan 1st 2013 at 9:05:59 PM

I still don't get the aquifer hate, man.

sure, it eats up your soil, but you know what? INFINITE WATER FOR MUD. it's so awesome, and after that, you can smooth and engrave in between your plots

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