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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 16th 2023 at 5:37:57 PM
- Not Good With People: Elphaba from Wicked is snarky and distant even toward her friends, and she [1] has a hard time expressing her feelings (mostly because she is Unable to Cry). On the other hand, she is an active fighter for animal rights and, later in the book, seems to gain an ability to communicate with various creatures. One of the most prominent examples
may beis [2] Elphaba's journey to the Vinkus [3], when she travels in one wagon with a monkey, a dog, bees, and crows, and the other travelers (including her own son) have to share a secondonewagon between themselves. - Japanese Honorifics: Rukia refers to Byakuya as "nii-sama", emphasizing her respect for him and the distance between
these twothem. In contrast, Karin and Yuzu call Ichigo by much more affectionatelyterms: "Ichi-nii" and "Onii-chan", respectively.
[1] The sentence as you originally wrote it was grammatically correct; it just flows better this way.
[2] "May be" is grammatically correct; however, there's a wiki policy against using qualifiers.
[3] Is "Vinkus" referring to a country/region/etc. or a people group? If it's a country, it should not have "the" before it. If it's a people group, the "the" is correct.
Thanks for help, but there are still some things I'm not sure about.
- "Vinkus" is a country, however in Wicked it's refered to as "the Vinkus". I'm not good with articles and I'm not sure, which form I should use here.
- In the universe of "Wicked" there are magical creatures called Animals (written with a captal letter), who possess a conscience and intelligence, but biologically are still animals. Elphaba is active fighter for their rights, because they are stripped off citizenship and treated like non-sentient beings. Should " animal rights" be written here with a small or capital letter?
edited 26th Feb '12 1:44:38 PM by Ciabella
Yes, those circumstances would make the "the" and the capitalized "Animals" correct.
Rhymes with "Protracted."In case you couldn't tell, I've never read Wicked, which is why I don't know the work specific details.
- If the book refers to it as "the Vinkus", then that would be the correct way to refer to it. Usually countries don't use an article before their name, but there are a few countries that do (for example, the United States, or the Bahamas).
- As "Animal" is different from "animal" in this context, yes, it should be capitalized in your example.
Thanks for help once again and sorry if my previous post has offended you in any way. I guessed you didn't read the book and just wanted to explain doubts.
No, I wasn't offended. I was just clarifying why I didn't know.
Hello here, I am not native speaker and would like ask if anyone could edit, several points of tropes with its comments (Several now, later eventualy more...), I would be realy greatful.
Post them here and I or someone else will take a look at them.
I found another instance of comfort food, that not on the comfort food page, it would be a real big help if someone added it for me
Here goes
In Homestar Runner After his Lappy got swiped, Strong Bad gorged himself on various chips which he claims are his anti-depressant
- In Homestar Runner, after his Lappy got swiped, Strong Bad gorged himself on various chips, which he claimed to be
arehis anti-depressant.
Thank you
Could someone PLEASE put the edited version on the webpage? Because you know, I'm suspended.
edited 4th Mar '12 9:10:20 AM by Rockhopper
^Done.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanThank you very much
Trauma Conga Line: (this is the second bullet point, so it may seem to be taken out of the context) Only if you don’t consider Seisouhen canon. Kenshin, still wrecked by guilt, abounds his family and friends to walk the Earth trying to redeem himself. Because of his Disappeared Dad status his own son hates him and runs off to Hiko to find a “real strength”. Kenshin becomes a human wreck, due to overusing Hitsen Mitsurugi and catching some strange skin disease. In the end, he doesn’t even remember who he is and Sano has to forcibly drag him back to Japan, so he could die in Kaoru’s arms. Oh, and Kaoru dies shortly afterwards, because she got infected by the same disease that killed Kenshin. Considering that Kenji basically becomes an orphan and most of his childhood consisted of waiting for his redemption-obsessed father and watching his mother slowly dying out of the grief and a skin illness she caught from said father, his life looks not much better.
edited 4th Mar '12 4:34:04 PM by Ciabella
(Since it's hard to bold deletions, I'll list them here: I got rid of the "a" in front of "real strength" and the "human" in front of wreck.)
Could someone double-check this? I'm not sure I got everything.
The corrections look good; however, adding the post itself to the page in question would violate both Example Indentation and Repair Dont Respond.
Splitting or merging this post to have only one character per bullet point is not a problem. As for Repair Dont Respond - I don't think it's a case here. Did you read orginal post about Rurouni Kenshin on a Trauma Conga Line page? My post refers to the previous one, but not in order to correct it. Besides, adding another ten lines will change this post into a Wall of Text.
edited 5th Mar '12 12:09:59 PM by Ciabella
The problem is that it looks like the final result will look like this:
- X is an example
- Only if Y.
That is not acceptable practice - Repair Dont Respond and How To Use Bullet Points have explanations.
Also, you mean in your last post:
Splitting or merging this post to have only one character per bullet point is not a problem. As for Repair Dont Respond - I don't think it's a case here. Did you read my orginal post about Rurouni Kenshin on the Trauma Conga Line page? My post refers to the previous one, but not in order to correct it. Besides, adding another ten lines will change this post into a Wall of Text.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanThe orginal post on this page is not mine, I smiply wanted to add a second bullet point to avoid a Wall of Text. But I will merge these two if you insist. Thanks for help with articles
edited 5th Mar '12 2:05:04 PM by Ciabella
OK Peeps, I have another trope to add to the Space Beasts page, I would really appreciate it if someone adds this to the pages (Not just correct it and leave it because I can't add it myself on account my bad grammar and spelling have left me indefinitely suspended or else I wound't be coming to you guys for help.
OK Tropes for Space Beasts
Literal Ass-Kicking: It's a running gag throughout the series that the universe seems to hate Ichabod's bottom. First and foremost the standard cure for his wasabi addiction is to be spanked repeatedly until his elf features recede back into his body, Second Ichabod almost always gets punished whenever he gets arrogant or cocky by some injury to the rear end, if there is something hot in the room, Ichabod will have the bad luck to sit on it, if Marzipan leaves some unfinished sewing project, on a chair Ichabod is bound to get a needle in his butt. Occaionally Edward or Zander will get spanked or have their asses kicked once in a while (In a rare example of this trope being played for drama Zander's behind was fiercely flogged for falling in love with a genetically engineered animal after he was stripped of his royal birthright) Ichabod himself lampshades this wondering why the universe hates his butt so much, Bill and Jim tell him to look on the bright side Bill: It could be worse! The universe could hate your groin instead!
That is all
Literal Ass-Kicking: It's a running gag throughout the series that the universe seems to hate Ichabod's bottom. First and foremost, the standard cure for his wasabi addiction is to be spanked repeatedly until his elf features recede back into his body. Second, Ichabod almost always gets punished whenever he gets arrogant or cocky by some injury to the rear end. If there is something hot in the room, Ichabod will have the bad luck to sit on it; if Marzipan leaves some unfinished sewing project on a chair, Ichabod is bound to get a needle in his butt. Occasionally, Edward or Zander will get spanked or have their asses kicked once in a while*. Ichabod himself lampshades this, wondering why the universe hates his butt so much; Bill and Jim tell him to look on the bright side.
—>Bill: It could be worse! The universe could hate your groin instead!
I'd say the spelling in this is pretty good, and the grammar wasn't bad so much that it could've been clearer.
If you think it's good and no one else says it's bad, I'll add it to the page. And I sort of want to check this out now...
And now for a question of my own. Is it "Alice and Bob's object" or "Alice's and Bob's object," where the object belongs to both Alice and Bob?
edited 8th Mar '12 7:42:57 PM by Autumncomet
One Piece blog Beyond the LampshadeYes please do add it
Added to the Space Beasts page. Also, would you have any idea as to what namespace this would go on? Might as well move it with the other namespace migration stuff.
Question repost: Is it "Alice and Bob's object" or "Alice's and Bob's object, " where the object belongs to both Alice and Bob?
One Piece blog Beyond the LampshadeIt's the former: "Alice and Bob's object" means the object belongs to both Alice and Bob. "Alice's and Bob's objects" (note the plural) means that there's more than one object, and some belong to Alice and some belong to Bob. But you can't have multiple people individually owning a single object ("Alice's and Bob's object").
I’d be grateful if someone help me with these edits
edited 26th Feb '12 9:24:15 AM by Ciabella