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So I was watching the preview for the new season. I saw a part that had Castiel trapped, and I couldn't figure out if it was from season 5 or a new time. Then I thought, who would have the knowledge and desire to trap Cas? And then I thought: well, anyone in heaven who isn't happy with how things turned out. And then I saw Raphael towards the end of that trailer.
Ohhh crap.
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6th season started yesterday. link for those like me who missed it.
The episode was alright, but I don't really like the Campbells at all, besides the obvious story of what they're up to, and I want Cas and Bobby back and active as soon as possible.
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There's something way off in that episode. I kept expecting the entire thing to be a djinn-vision, right up until the end. Sam was not acting like Sam at all... would Sam really turn down the keys to the Impala? Seriously?
Anyway, I don't like the Campbells either, but that's because I'm a Mac Donald by blood, and No True Scotsman suffers a Campbell's antics.
"The secret we should never let the gamemasters know is that they don't need any rules." - E. Gary Gygax
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huh?
And it'll be odd if they stick with having two cars. I want the season to get back to normal as soon as possible.
I liked the juxtaposition scene though. Really made it heart-wrenching
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(There was an infamous incident where a bunch of Campbells slaughtered a bunch of McDonalds; the feud isn't because of the slaughter (folks killed each other over sheep and cattle in those days), but because the Campbells abused the hospitality laws to inflict the massacre. There is modern folklore that, to this day, there are some parts of Scotland where, if you sign your name as "Campbell" in the guest book of a bed & breakfast, the proprietor will say, "Oh, I forgot, we're all full up for tonight..." and turn them away.)
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ah.
you see, being english by birth, I'm trained to not care about massacres of scots.
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Typical English... you start the wars, the Scots do the dying.
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Does anyone know where one can watch the latest season online?
Some of you look a little more Asian to me.
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@Dracomicron - As a Campbell I would just like to say MWHWAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!
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The two episodes I missed featured the return of characters I missed.
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finally saw ep3 - the return of Castiel brings the return of something the first two episodes with the campbells lacked - enjoyable interaction and interesting mythology.
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The most recent episode starring Bobby was pretty damn awesome. Really, it is odd exactly how short-sighted Crowley was to not just honor the terms of the deal. Seriously, look what lengths they went to deal with Lucifer, he was silly to think that they wouldn't do the same thing to him.
The first two episodes of the season were a little weak (probably intentionally), but the last two episodes were pretty damn good.
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Quite well agreed. It was a very good episode.
I was wondering how they might turn this extra season into a part of the mythology, but it's really working well. A war for heaven, some unrest in hell, and monsters acting off form? Sign me up.
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I missed the first 20 minutes of the Bobby episode, but I turned it on just as Bobby was shoving a hot vampire chick into a woodchipper.
That was pretty awesome, though I always wonder about the huge amount of vampire blood that gets sprayed on people in this show: they never seem to worry about getting infected.
Then I saw the preview for next week, and had to laugh.
edited 18th Oct '10 11:58:56 AM by Dracomicron
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she wasn't a vampire, she was an okami (Japanese wolf demon).
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I see. That'll learn me for coming in late.
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it's actually important to the season plot that she was something not generally seen in America - it was another sign of monsters being "weird."
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I've been watching Supernatural since the second season and I just love it. The relationship between Sam and Dean is screwed up but intriguing. And I am a huge Castielfan and I absolutely love him. This season seems very awesome too.
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So Castiel, Crowley and Morpheus Lecter (the alpha vampire) stole every second of this episode.
To be honest, I am pleasantly surprised by how effectively this season was able to both continue what should've been a finished mythology and continue the Villain Pedigree: following up the apocalypse with monster armies, hell expansion and a civil war in heaven is pretty ingenious.
Also, I think it's safe to say that the side contrary to Raphael actually wants Castiel in charge, but he's too humble to acknowledge or mention it. He and Crowley (and to a lesser extent Azazel) are a different kind of power/leader than the others seen.
edited 8th Nov '10 4:40:10 PM by wanderlustwarrior
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I am not surprised at the quality of this season. They have a very talented staff on the show, and a power vacuum is always rife for interesting stories.
The only thing that I could ask of this season is that they bring the Trickster back to life. His stories are pretty much always awesome.
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so I'm thinking that this season is going to make a specific revelation, considering the facts:
- Demons have been shown to be basically superpowerful regular monsters, by being susceptible to salting and burning of the bodies.
- Demons are the spawn of Lucifer.
- Angels are the spawn of God.
- The Alpha Vampire, Morpheus Lecter, mentioned that even the first monters have a mother.
- Purgatory is, at least on the metaphysical level, "hell adjacent".
- Everything has some means of being killed, including angels and demons.
- There's a reason for supernatural tools, which includes Death's scythe and thus likely includes "Ruby"'s knife.
CONCLUSION:
- All monsters have origins, and they are likely the spawn of a god or demigod.
- As Archangel Gabriel has explained, archangels are functionally demigods.
- Magic and powers are the result of tools of godly origin, or the combination of powers or species.
- Variations, including new species, can be born by the meeting of existing ones, such as with Jesse, "The Antichrist".
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Richard Speight Jr.'s Fan Nickname for his own character is "The Gabester"
partial link: http://fangasmthebook.wordpress.com/2010/04/27/gabriel-went-out-like-a-man-not-a-weenie-... (some of the characters in the link do not translate well)
edited 12th Nov '10 9:36:19 AM by wanderlustwarrior
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I'm putting last episode as a tick in my "discontinuity" tab. Full reasons to follow on my blog but... there's just so much lore they're stepping on!
Oh, and clarification: Demons are apparently (in a behind the scenes reasoning, not confirmed in show yet) to be an amalgam of angel+human (especially ghost/spirit form). So they should still be a step up from most monsters (though I still can't make the math work on that damn anti-christ).
And I'm not trusting Crowley's story. It might be easy enough power wise to reassemble Sam's body and program it like a robot but it can't be that easy to get his soul (which is in Lucifer's cage) out, otherwise what's keeping Lucifer locked in? (since his power level should still wipe Crowley off the map, especially since he's the "true" king of hell) And getting grandpa out of Heaven can't be that easy either unless someone made a deal.
I like the idea of a turf war, but I wish it was with LESS demons and angels.
(oh, and money on Lilith being the mother of all monsters)
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well, I wouldn't mind that whole "less angels and demons" part, if it weren't for the two having the best lore. And in the case of angels, weapons.
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Started watching the show last year after hitting the 'random' button on this wiki. Admittedly, I started watching the show because I thought Jensen and Jared were Mr. Fanservice and because my friend had 4 seasons of it on DVD. Once I started watching I fell in love (not literally) with the characters and their plight. I kinda thought that bringing Angels and Demons into the mix was a little iffy, but so far it seems ok. I'm just worried that it won't live up to my expectations for the big Michael vs. Lucifer fight (Only on episode 11 of season 5) and that if that the Angels vs. Demon plot is all wrapped up by the end of the season, where can the writers go from there for season 6?
I thought Ellen and Jo's end in "Abandon All Hope..." was handled pretty well. I liked Ellen before, was mixed about Jo, but after seeing that episode I had to give her props for using her death for good. It made me get a little teary-eyed (Didn't cry, but I definitely felt for the characters)