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DeanCole Since: Jun, 2015
#2176: Sep 17th 2015 at 1:31:35 PM

So they kind of having to bring back Maya right? I mean it would be weird to set the game in the Kurain and not show her.Consideingr she's the master of the channeling technique now

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Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#2178: Sep 17th 2015 at 3:56:19 PM

Yeah, that looks like Gaspen in a really gaudy outfit.

I wonder what Winston has been up to since Apollo Justice, though.

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#2179: Sep 17th 2015 at 4:26:44 PM

Maybe he's retired, he is in his 60s by now.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#2180: Sep 17th 2015 at 7:09:04 PM

He's a lawyer. They don't retire until... They don't retire.

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#2181: Sep 17th 2015 at 7:24:45 PM

They don't retire until they figure out the system.

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BeholdTheTheremin Since: Oct, 2010
#2182: Sep 18th 2015 at 8:20:10 AM

You know, considering that Mystic Vision is pretty much the victim's POV, I can already predict that 'being unseen' is the linking theme between the cases' villains.

Funnily enough, only a handful of previous scenarios wouldn't have been solved by the presence of the Water Mirror (DL-6, Neil Marshall's murder, almost every case in JFA, possibly Recipe, Bridge, Corner, Succession, Forgotten, Jack Cameron's murder, President Huang's body double's murder, and Monstrous. If we're including DGS, Departure and Clouded).

That said, what kind of scenario can you guys think of that would utilize this game's gimmick?

edited 18th Sep '15 8:21:01 AM by BeholdTheTheremin

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#2183: Sep 18th 2015 at 11:24:48 AM

The victim was indeed killed by the defendant- but it was self-defense, which the mirror can't quite show.

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#2184: Sep 18th 2015 at 11:29:37 AM

If only Pheonix was able to accept "self defense" or "accidental" verdicts.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#2185: Sep 18th 2015 at 11:48:56 AM

True, he won't take anything less than absolute and total innocence. Else you get the Engarde treatment. tongue

Apollo, meanwhile, will gladly defend you even if you forge evidence, are a gangster, are a smuggler, or forge paintings.

edited 18th Sep '15 11:50:18 AM by Anomalocaris20

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Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#2186: Sep 18th 2015 at 2:53:32 PM

[up][up]Well, the one time that I think it's ever come up is when Maya was accused by the Franz of killing Turner Grey.

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#2187: Sep 18th 2015 at 3:25:50 PM

He could have very well have used this same defense in the final part of 2-4, as well as the fact that Edgeworth was a minor at the time.

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FawfulCrump Since: Dec, 2010
#2190: Sep 18th 2015 at 8:18:39 PM

I doubt they'd bring back Apollo but not Athena. I imagine she'll be slightly Out of Focus, though, considering she was basically the main focus of the plot in the previous game.

I was kind of hoping this game would be that for Apollo, but the setting doesn't exactly lend itself well to going into Apollo's backstory.

edited 18th Sep '15 8:20:48 PM by FawfulCrump

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#2191: Sep 18th 2015 at 8:38:24 PM

I don't doubt Athena will return. AA 5 kinda established Phoenix, Apple Juice, and Athena as a core trio of lawyers, even if she was the newcomer, and it'd be weird to just say "Oh, and Athena's not with us anymore".

Plus, who's going to be Polly's co-council and vice-versa?

[up]Unless Apollo's father turns out to have been Winston Kurayne all along. tongue

edited 18th Sep '15 8:39:02 PM by Anomalocaris20

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ComicX6 Since: Jan, 2010
#2192: Sep 18th 2015 at 8:51:09 PM

Phoenix becoming the head of an actual law firm and the resulting three-lawyer-dynamic was the best part of Dual Destinies, so it would've made no sense to suddenly toss it out.

BeholdTheTheremin Since: Oct, 2010
#2193: Sep 18th 2015 at 10:19:28 PM

Leifa's dance reminds me of spiritbending, for some reason.

TwilightFalchion Since: Oct, 2010
#2194: Sep 18th 2015 at 11:25:07 PM

Some gameplay has been uploaded. Japanese only (obviously) not subbed as of yet.

edited 18th Sep '15 11:26:05 PM by TwilightFalchion

KoujiTamino Since: Jul, 2010
#2195: Sep 18th 2015 at 11:37:18 PM

Mah boy Apollo! waii

Also man, this game looks super pretty. I thought the 5th game looked good, but they've really pushed that engine to the limit this time.

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#2196: Sep 18th 2015 at 11:46:43 PM

I'm really curious about what's going on with that dancing scene. It isn't a channeling, or at least Channeling that we're used to, considering her appearance doesn't change and channeling never required this kind of gymnastics before.

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TwilightFalchion Since: Oct, 2010
#2197: Sep 18th 2015 at 11:52:37 PM

[up]It may just be the ceremony for activating the water mirror. and Leifa is interpreting what is shown rather than actually channeling the spirit herself.

EDIT:

TGS trailer again but with the Apollo reveal at the end.

edited 19th Sep '15 12:09:32 AM by TwilightFalchion

BeholdTheTheremin Since: Oct, 2010
#2198: Sep 19th 2015 at 6:10:04 AM

Well, Mystic Vision is said to be a 'secret art', so it would make sense to be a channeling technique that we've never seen before.

Speaking of which, I've learned how it works from a member at Court Records. Basically, the lower part with the hitodama is pretty much a scene-selection menu, allowing you to skip or go back to certain parts of the vision. Above that is Leifa's interpretation of the vision, which works like a regular testimony (that is, divided into statements, in this case there's 3 of them). The button on the top right is a pause/play button, to...well, pause or play the vision at certain spots. The center button makes you select and present the contradictory sensation.

Basically, you have to find the scene that contradicts Leifa's interpretation, select the statement in the interpretation that it contradicts, and then select the sensation that contradicts it. Basically, it's like what happens when you combine Percieve, Mood Matrix, and those video tape segments from Rise from the Ashes (and Turnabout Serenade, I think).

Oh, and if you get it wrong, you lose a penalty mark.

So...yeah, a significant raise in difficulty from Mood Matrix, don't you think?

edited 19th Sep '15 8:16:36 AM by BeholdTheTheremin

MJTrooper Since: Apr, 2011
#2199: Sep 19th 2015 at 8:42:20 AM

So, does this game use the five strike penalty system from the first game?

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#2200: Sep 19th 2015 at 10:37:56 AM

I think it's reasonable to assume the dancing is for the mirror. It started glowing once she finished, after all.

I just hope they don't repeat that whole dance for five or six cases...

[up]Yes.

edited 19th Sep '15 10:39:11 AM by Hobgoblin


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