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I look forward to seeing that proposal Misry.

That is a very awkward entry seems like it could use a rewrite, assuming he still counts.

Alexander, Piedmon, Michael, Thomas, King Neo, Rhulk, Zalem, Smaug, Junior, Thiago, Animated Smaug, Vlad, Donkey, Spencer.

Titus.

Namely the reason I designated it as being Novel!Chris was because I had heard that the film gives him mitigating qualities. Hadn't watched the film myself to determine that, but for the most part, Chris's revision seems accurate.

Edited by AustinDR on Oct 6th 2022 at 6:12:21 AM

Approve of the Cleek rewrite!

Gonna grab AMC's Mayfair Witches

What I'm getting from Thaddeus:

• Watched London destroy a mining village (not seen the film so can't confirm if he was behind it)
• Murdered his daughters mother
• Scarred his daughters face
• Released a "dangerous" criminal to chase the heroes
• Intending to use MEDUSA to attack another settlement
• Murders the mayor
• Has his henchmen wipe out the control crew
• Tries to crash London into the wall

I'd say he's good by heinousness. But would anyone oppose me attempting a rewrite?

Go for it, Wet!

Go for it Wet! I wanted to do that one myself but—I'm gonna have to be blunt here—the current is so hard to follow I'm not sure where to begin but your bullet points seem an excellent summary!

I for one, definitely support a rewrite. Current one is confusing

Alright let's get this going...

Original

• Thaddeus Valentine is the head of the Guild of Historians and the second-in-command to the mayor of London, Magnus Crome. Introduced observing the mobile city of London devouring a small mining town, it was revealed that prior to the main story, Thaddeus personally murdered the mother of the assassin - and his own daughter - Hester Shaw, and scarred Hester's face in order to gain an Old Technology for his own agenda. When one of the other Historians, Tom Nasworthy, found this out, Thaddeus released the dangerous criminal Shrike and sent him after Hester and Tom. It was revealed that he uses said Old Technology in order to activate a weapon known as MEDUSA that could destroy the Shield Wall that protected the static settlement known as Shan Guo so that he could make it his new hunting ground. When the mayor found out about Thaddeus's plans, Thaddeus murdered him in cold blood. When his plans of destroying the Shield Wall failed, he then orders his henchmen to execute London's control crew and plans to ram London into the wall. His own daughter Katherine called him out on how his only goal was to gain more power.

Rewrite

• Thaddeus Valentine is the Deputy Lord Mayor of London who seeks the weapon MEDUSA for his own twisted ambitions. Prior to the story, Thaddeus murdered the mother of his daughter before scarring her face. To stop the heroes from interfering with his plans, Thaddeus unleashes the dangerous criminal Shrike to tail and dispose of them. Thaddeus' ultimate plan with MEDUSA is to use it's power to turn the settlement of Shan Guo into his hunting ground, later killing the mayor of London when he discovers his plans. With his plans of utilising MEDUSA rendered for naught, Thaddeus has the London control crew slaughtered and attempts to ram London into Shan Guo's wall, uncaring of the countless innocents that would be wiped out in the ensuing destruction.

Thoughts?

Thanks. As for title change, I did a brief search and " Deputy Lord Mayor" was listed on Wikipedia in the cast section.

Edited by WetFlannels on Oct 6th 2022 at 3:26:42 PM

Fantastic, my one and only suggestion would be if he's got a title? I see "second-in-command" of London but is he a politician or some kind of military man? Other than that it's perfect, stellar job as usual Wet!

Deputy Lord Mayor has got to be one of the weirdest titles I have seen.

Donkey Zheng

Spencer

Titus H. Crockett— He comes from a self contained horror antology that is not in the superhero thing, so he isn't competing with Norman and other supervillain CEO s. Now, for the story itself, I think that his action of causing the death of hundreds of children is well enough to make him count, especially with the other previous villainy.

Seriously. Look at his actions. Causing his own brother to commit suicide and deliberately creates the circunstances that would cause a tragedy that kills children and then brags about it

Heck, its not even MARVEL comics, its ATLAS. Many of the CE Os of Marvel comics didn't even exist then because Marvel comics didn't even exist there.

I read the comic. Dude is nasty. The tragedy of the school is enough to make him pass the baseline standard handily and his sheer personal villainy just establishes him enough for me. He outright is glad of driving his own brother to suicide and then brags of ruining other lives.

For a short comic? Enough. Especially with the Wall of Text where he constantly gets characterization as a evil man whose greed is so massive that he gets sucked into a lethal Deal with the Devil

Its not negligence, he deliberately caused the situations that lead to the school collapse.

He changed the ingredients for the cement, something that he knew it would lead to a unstable building. The school collapsed, hundreds died and he bragged about it to the Devil.

Edited by KazuyaProta on Oct 6th 2022 at 10:06:28 AM

Then yes

Me, I'm still maintaining my no on Titus. He still seems like small potatoes.

Any other opinions for my image suggestion and my Thaddeus rewrite?

As for Titus... I'll slide a tentative across

Edited by WetFlannels on Oct 6th 2022 at 4:19:04 PM

Okay, when you put it that way then switching to a sure to Titus.

to Titus

Approve of the Thaddeues rewrite!

Aaaaand last one for this batch I think, from Sherlock, I've just refreshed on this fine gent...

Who is Dr. Frankland? What has he done?

The main antagonist of the episode "The Hounds of the Baskervilles", Dr. Bob Frankland was once a member of "H.O.U.N.D.", a covert government scientific operation working in part with the CIA to develop a new weapon for chemical warfare: a gas that could quickly, monstrously cause hallucinations and insanity-inducing fear into those who breathed in the gas. Frankland's team performed a bevy of human experiments that drove multiple people completely insane, leading them to either lifelong mental illness, suicide, or murdering their loved ones thanks to the illegal, inhumane testings Frankland and HOUND subjected them to for years.

Though HOUND was shut down after the countless amounts of death and destruction it caused, Frankland refused to give up his research and continued experimenting on people and animals with the chemical in secret after changing his name, hoping to perfect it as the ultimate battlefield weapon. When the man's experiments were uncovered by a coworker at the Baskerville Military Base in Dartmoor, Frankland tracked his coworker down, poisoned him and his young son Henry Knight with the chemical, and beat his coworker to death as Henry fled in hallucinatory terror, believing it to have been a monstrous dog that killed his father.

Years later still continuing his experiments in private as he got away with the murder, Frankland learns that a now-adult Henry is beginning to remember the truth of his father's death...and so Frankland begins dosing Henry with the chemical over the course of months, slowly driving him absolutely, agonizingly insane, every single day a waking nightmare of mental torment. Frankland pushes Henry to such madness that he attempts to murder one of his friends in a haze, before nearly killing himself...luckily, Sherlock Holmes intervenes just in time to stop the suicide and expose Frankland, and though Frankland attempts to flee from justice, in the ensuing chase he runs into a minefield testing area and is promptly blown to smithereens.

Mitigating features?

Nope, just a For Science! motive!

Heinousness?

The series has plenty nasty CMs in Moriarty, Magnussen, Culverton, etc...as well as two near-misses for CM in Lord Moran (who tries to bomb Parliament but has practically zero personality or dialogue) and Vivian Norbury (who orchestrated a botched hostage rescue that got multiple people killed and tortured, but has a one-off line that seemingly confirms she cared about her dead husband).

Frankland is a unique beast, with the least resources of any of the current Keeps. He was a major leader in HOUND in which a shitton of illegal and horrific experiments were performed that drove people insane and resulted in "permanent frontal lobe damage" to the few survivors, murders and suicides galore resulting from it. Then when he's nearly exposed, he sends Henry as a child and his father into terror with the gas and murders his dad, then later tries to drive Henry into madness and suicide to cover it up for good, all while implicitly continuing the HOUND experiments to create a chemical weapon. He's bad enough.

Final Verdict?

That's a yes after a long while of unsure-ness, but a rewatch slides him right in.

Frankland. What an… interesting way to update the original story.

Switching to a Hell to Titus with that clarified.

And to Frankland

Frankland

Trope misuse on his character page?

• Affably Evil: Dr Frankland is very polite and friendly despite being a murderer involved in highly unethical scientific experiments.

He's affable when playing as a good guy...everything we see of his true self is just a nasty murderer.

to the Bellroc image, the Chris Creek rewrite, the Thaddeus Valentine rewrite, and Dr. Bob Frankland. Switching to a to Titus H. Crockett.

to Frankland

Frankland, it has been a while since I saw the episode and I do not remember him being this awful. The plot was really confusing so it was hard to keep track of.