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Tvtropes Conlang:

So, I'm a longish-time lurker, delurking for my brilliant  * idea: Tvtropes needs its own conlang. I don't know how a language could show a unique troper worldview, but surely it can be done? And if not, at least we'll have fun making a language. Takers?

Update: There is now a page for the language, which for convenience may be found thither.

edited 22nd Sep '10 5:28:53 PM by LKtheGreat

"There's an amazing feeling to being able to say things in your own language." - Zizoz
 2 AC Drawings, Wed, 15th Sep '10 11:45:06 AM from MY PERSONAL REALITY
YOSH!
I thought "Trope" was our language a la Tv Tropes Will Ruin Your Vocabulary
When All Else Fails, you have fun and flirt wit da ladies, dats da Drawings way!
 3 Tzetze, Wed, 15th Sep '10 11:45:53 AM from a converted church in Venice, Italy
DUMB
That's just a relexed English, though.
 4 Willy Four Eyes, Wed, 15th Sep '10 12:20:16 PM from Darby, PA, USA Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Shulkamaniac
Yeah, but it needs a fancy name. "Tropese"? "Tropish"? "Troplish"?
Bibliophile.
Tropeliteric. It's my best idea for a name.
  1. Never be without a Hat!

Hot means heat. I don't care if your usage dates to 1300, it's my word, not yours.

My Pm box is open.
Off-duty Writer
Dur, how about we worry about the name later and comes with some cases or phonology or something?

Bibliophile.
Trope, Xanatos, and Cthulhu should be important, if not absolutely essential parts of the language.
  1. Never be without a Hat!

Hot means heat. I don't care if your usage dates to 1300, it's my word, not yours.

My Pm box is open.
 8 Bobby G, Thu, 16th Sep '10 5:50:10 PM from the Silvery Tay
vigilantly taxonomish
We should incorporate "bigonkers" somehow.

Or, perhaps not should...
 9 Tzetze, Thu, 16th Sep '10 5:50:33 PM from a converted church in Venice, Italy

Sounds fun.

 11 Gelzo, Fri, 17th Sep '10 2:33:02 AM from the vault
Gerald Zosewater
I thought "Trope" was our language a la Tv Tropes Will Ruin Your Vocabulary

I think you're confusing language with jargon.
Ruining everything forever.
One of the biggest criticisms of this site is tropers using trope-speak outside the wiki.
 
Well, if TV Tropes has it's own language, no one else will be able to understand any of it, so they won't be able to complain! Et voila! Problem solved!

edited 17th Sep '10 2:43:04 AM by MidnightVelvet

 
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Is that really a criticism of the site itself, when the problem is with using tropespeak outside of the wiki?
Fractally long
Each element of the language should be inspired by one of the most popular tropes. i.e. Magnificent Bastard guides the Tropese/Tropian/Tropska/Tropois's orthography.
Game Master
I'm thinking we should make it relatively simple. One pronunciation for each character, and tenses are just matter of sticking some on.
TVTropes Nuzlocke Thread. - Arceus Help Us All.

I think the important thing is that it isn't just a cipher for English (or Spanish, French, Japanese, etc). The grammar and so on should be fundamentally different. We can draw on any of those languages, of course.

Game Master
I"m with zizoz on this. Also we have to consider whether noun should be gendered or non-gendered and other such cultural things.
TVTropes Nuzlocke Thread. - Arceus Help Us All.
Bibliophile.
If we have gender, than "distaff" or some derivative should indicate "female" and "spear" or some derivative would indicate "male".

Either that, or I think we should go non-gender.
  1. Never be without a Hat!

Hot means heat. I don't care if your usage dates to 1300, it's my word, not yours.

My Pm box is open.

I don't think we should have gendered pronouns like "he" and "she". But noun classes are probably fine.

So, what sort of sounds would you like? I recommend the bilabial trill. :P Although it should be part of an affricate, otherwise I can't pronounce it.

Interesting Conversation
"Th" should have its own letter.

For sounds, we should have the "a" sound as in "dad", the "o" as in close, the "e" sound as in "friend", the "i" sound as in will, and the U sound as in truth.

Those are the best and most useful vowel sounds.
YOU! ARE! INSAZNE!

Different people pronounce words differently. For instance, "friend" and "will" have the same vowel for me. That's why I suggest using the IPA. I think you are talking about //, /ɛ/, /ɪ/, /o/, /u/. I would substitute /i/ for /ɪ/, but otherwise I'm fine with that. If these are the only vowel sounds, I think we should allow for variations in their pronunciation, so [i] and [ɪ] would be allophones of the same sound anyway.

edited 17th Sep '10 2:13:21 PM by Zizoz

Game Master
I mean obviously some nouns should be gendered implicitly or otherwise, but I'm thinking like in romance languages where some inanimate nouns have genders.

I myself would prefer to have 'a' be 'ah', e be 'eh' i be 'ee', o be 'oh', and u be 'oo'. But maybe we should have characters for the other vowel sounds.

Also: Should we use roman characters or some other character set? Maybe even a custom character set?

edited 17th Sep '10 2:42:05 PM by lockonlockon

TVTropes Nuzlocke Thread. - Arceus Help Us All.

I think Roman characters are necessary so we can discuss it. Or at least, we need to have a standard transliteration.

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